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Re: Slower News

#41

I feel the name is a misnomer. These articles are opinion and analysis. News is different. Slow news would not be very interesting, either.

I’d like the opposite. A twitter feed with just facts, (or allegations with timely follow ups) relevant to a specific topic. The hard part is getting one entity to report this with no bias. Maybe this is a job for bots + AI.

If one day we can solve for how AI is just bias enshrined in software.

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#42

I feel the name is a misnomer. These articles are opinion and analysis. News is different. Slow news would not be very interesting, either.

Well, I think that's the key observation: when you no longer chase "breaking" news, you have to provide more analysis. When "X does Y", you don't usually need to learn about it within 60 minutes. You usually need to understand "What are the implications of this? Is Y really necessary? What is the motivation driving X?". I can recommend subscribing to the paper version of The Economist, you will see that the "breaking…

> when you no longer chase "breaking" news, you have to provide more analysis

Which is why there's a sea of difference in the quality between an Economist opinion piece (which takes a week to craft), a Bloomberg opinion piece (which takes a couple of days unless it's an expert or Matt Levine), or a standard run of the mill media outlet opinion piece (usually the next day).

Re: Slower News

#43

I feel the name is a misnomer. These articles are opinion and analysis. News is different. Slow news would not be very interesting, either.

I’d like the opposite. A twitter feed with just facts, (or allegations with timely follow ups) relevant to a specific topic. The hard part is getting one entity to report this with no bias. Maybe this is a job for bots + AI.

so something like this but with non-biased articles?

https://www.memeorandum.com/

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#44
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes news and opinions are different. Which is why there’s an entire editorial or opinion section in news. The internet has managed to blur the lines and people are convinced anything and everything is automatically news.

The choice to report or not report new information is itself an expression of opinion. I’m not sure there ever could be lines other than of the blurry variety? E.g. my OnlyTheFacts (tm) news org who doesn’t add any form of opinion to the news they report might still choose to just not report some types of story and choose to always cover a relatively rare type of event skewing the perception of reportable news in the…

> I’m not aware of any news vendors who list the stories they choose not to cover.

The only thing I am aware of that is even close is Project Censored, which aims to document the most important stories that have been ignored by all major news outlets each year:

https://www.projectcensored.org/category/the-top-25-censored...

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice to report or not report new information is itself an expression of opinion. I’m not sure there ever could be lines other than of the blurry variety? E.g. my OnlyTheFacts (tm) news org who doesn’t add any form of opinion to the news they report might still choose to just not report some types of story and choose to always cover a relatively rare type of event skewing the perception of reportable news in the…

> I’m not aware of any news vendors who list the stories they choose not to cover. The only thing I am aware of that is even close is Project Censored, which aims to document the most important stories that have been ignored by all major news outlets each year: https://www.projectcensored.org/category/the-top-25-censored...

That is an awesome find! Thank you very much

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#46
Maybe a better question to ask would be why not drastically decrease the amount of news altogether, instead of just switching to opinion pieces or some other gimmick?

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#47

I feel the name is a misnomer. These articles are opinion and analysis. News is different. Slow news would not be very interesting, either.

Actually, I've been interested in reviving something that might be called slow news. Its more like the weekly news digest. Lots of times first reports are inaccurate, or woefully incomplete, and the corrections never get noticed; also, sometimes we need to slow down to cogitate on the news instead of just reacting to it.

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#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice to report or not report new information is itself an expression of opinion. I’m not sure there ever could be lines other than of the blurry variety? E.g. my OnlyTheFacts (tm) news org who doesn’t add any form of opinion to the news they report might still choose to just not report some types of story and choose to always cover a relatively rare type of event skewing the perception of reportable news in the…

> I’m not aware of any news vendors who list the stories they choose not to cover. The only thing I am aware of that is even close is Project Censored, which aims to document the most important stories that have been ignored by all major news outlets each year: https://www.projectcensored.org/category/the-top-25-censored...

All of these pieces of 'news' are just outright opinion pieces on issues that have been covered in the news...

Re: Slower News

#49

I feel the name is a misnomer. These articles are opinion and analysis. News is different. Slow news would not be very interesting, either.

Actually, I've been interested in reviving something that might be called slow news. Its more like the weekly news digest. Lots of times first reports are inaccurate, or woefully incomplete, and the corrections never get noticed; also, sometimes we need to slow down to cogitate on the news instead of just reacting to it.

I'd like to see something that detects trends, not fads. Basically "slow news" that detects news that continues to be news long after the story has broken.

Google actually had this c. 2012 - there was a portion of the SRP that was devoted to "long form" articles, long articles that continued to get searched for months after they came out. It surfaced some really good content, but the SRP was probably was the wrong format to put this on. I think it was unlaunched after a few years, unfortunately.

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