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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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I’ve also found it incredibly difficult to help depressed/lonely people without experiencing some kind of backlash. I have a jobless friend who still lives with his parents, and is always lamenting about how terrible his life is, as if phishing for help. When I offer help, he becomes combative, so I try to just avoid the topic until one day he’s ready for change in his life.

It's mostly about moderating, but maybe it will be helpful to you/someone: https://witnesstodestruction.blogspot.com/p/a-pragmatic-appr...

I have always struggled, in real life and online, with people who talk about their complex lives. This gives great advice for how to approach the situation with empathy for them and for the group. Thanks for posting this!

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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I was actually thinking of the year when I was bedridden for several months and my life hung in the balance for the entire year and a female friend -- my best friend when I was a military wife stationed in Germany -- managed to get hold of me after not hearing from me for several months while I fought for my life and she went on for 45 minutes about her really minor whiny shit without so much as asking me how I was a…

I sometimes do something essentially the same as your former friend because I think the person with the problem probably wants to be treated like a normal person to feel as normal as possible instead of as a charity pity case. And to take their mind off of their completely obvious problems of the moment. IE, "I know my leg is cut off, we don't need to go over it and over it ..." I figure everyone in the world is smot…

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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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Loneliness is interesting from the perspective of technology and privacy. The internet’s, especially the web’s, solution to social engagement is sharing, often completely at odds to privacy.

For most people there exists a healthy social balance of privacy and engagement by limiting sharing to a confined group, often close social contacts from the offline world. For many people that balance is absent resulting in behaviors that could be defined as exhibitionist. As an example years ago there numbers for Twitter suggestive of the 80/20 rule where a minority of the users create that vast majority of content while everyone else mostly lurks.

From a technology perspective, especially an ad driven platform, that creates all kinds of problems. Exhibitionists, the possibly unhealthy people, are an audience the platform wants to reward because they disproportionately drive revenue. In the offline world this is extremely bizarre behavior, but on online social platforms become something artificially enviable. These behaviors exchange social interaction for attention engagement often at cost to privacy.

As a technologist it is possible to create a software tool that is inherently private and creates a healthy social environment online. In order to accomplish that the technology has to promote the same sort of privacy and interpersonal balance that is more natural to the offline world. The biggest challenge isn’t designing the proper technology but rather promoting such a solution contrary to current platforms and their supposed incentives.

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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Does this number actually help? It’s shared kind of automatically but I find it trivializes suicide

It might help folks that can be helped by talking to someone. For someone like me, it would only make me feel bad, like I'm burdening someone else with the knowledge that I'm going to end my life; I know they won't be able to "talk me out of it". I have no friends, no family, nor any coworkers since July. No one will notice me being dead then any more than they notice me being absent now. When the money runs out, I h…

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Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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> Some people rely heavily on technology and end up treating it as an electronic friend, a sounding board—just writing it down can make you feel better... Ha! I too have a something like paranoid disease, and writing it down made me realize how crazy my speculation. [link redacted]

Hate to be the party pooper, but the proper diagnosis for "something like paranoid disease" is called "paranoid schizophrenia" and if you had any idea what that implied you might have sounded like less of a Jackass.

Your "problem" is colloquially called "teenage angst" and adequate treatment can be achieved by reading The Catcher In The Rye, listening to copious amounts of Grunge music and, if you have enough status among your peer group, fucking your brains out with someone equally confused as yourself but of the (usually) opposite sex, about whom only in hindsight when it is too late you'll realize that you actually cared about.

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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Heads up, most (not all) women really hate seeing men complain or cry. I think most men who have been around women a lot understand this. It's just the way things are, it's not out of malice. If you're a man and you want to sulk with someone, another man or a therapist is best.

I think it's pretty simple: Women look to men for strength, so showing weakness takes a man out of consideration as a partner.

He wasn't trying to date her.

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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I've studied social/psychological stuff, spent a lot of years suicidal and spent a number of years homeless which was incredibly socially isolating and even negatively impacted how people interacted with me online. Some thoughts (intended as a buffet to choose from if it strikes your fancy, not a prescription for "the right way" to do anything at all): 1. It's usually not actually helpful to signal that you are despe…

> 1. It's usually not actually helpful to signal that you are desperate and lonely and your life is in the toilet. Once in a great while, someone will be truly wonderful to you because you did that but it's usually counterproductive. I met up with a close friend a few days ago to lament how tough its been to live alone throughout this Covid period, to get rejected by dozens of companies while job hunting, and to do o…

I think this happened basically:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=x81M3g3zjXc

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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Sometimes it feels like we're in the midst of a loneliness epidemic, created or exacerbated by technology like the internet. But the data doesn't actually line up with that belief: https://ourworldindata.org/loneliness-epidemic It looks like we are generally as lonely as we were throughout the 20th century. Perhaps that's a sign the internet hasn't yet lived up to its promise as the great unifier. The fact that the g…

I wonder if people just are not as good at being stimulation free and alone with their thoughts.

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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In my humble opinion, it is critical that we become OK with being alone. I believe that only when we are comfortable by ourselves, can we truly ever be happy with someone else.

I disagree with this mindset. Humans are a social species and require some sort of interaction to thrive. Perpetuating this idea of going at it alone is a problem in modern society imo. This is coming from a pretty extreme introvert.

I went through a few stints in my late 20s when I literally didn't leave the condo for a span of 9 months, and at another point 6 months. It was within a span of a few years of deep social isolation. I had frozen meals delivered and left outside the condo. I mean fully that I didn't interact with a physical human during those months.

It was a painful experience at times, although I tried not to wallow in it. Becoming completely accepting of that sort of isolation, and growing to thrive within it, is something I wish everyone could experience.

Re: I am lonely will anyone speak to me

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"there is a light at the end of this fucking tunnel and we will get through it." As someone that was lonely before COVID, there is no light at the end. Makind friends when over 30 is incredibly difficult. Being an big extrovert in isolation is tough. I want to work in an office, but I probably never will again in our industry.

Like what in life that's worth a shit don't take some effort? Being lonely sucks yeah...but take at least a bit of responsibility for it and realize that people make major changes in their lives every-damn-day. Heroin addicts get clean EVERYDAY...you think being lonely is worse than kicking that shit? Guess what...you're wrong if you do. Take small steps. Smile more. Be interested in others. You can do it for sure.

>Smile more

No one should be seeing an uncovered face until the whole world is vaccinated.

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