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Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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I use Skype to simplify international calling. I have a phone number in Poland (bought through Skype). People in Poland dial that number, and Skype routes it to a number of my choosing. I have numbers in countries that my family lives in. For them it is a local call, and it always gets directly to me.

Neither of the three shown alternatives provide this feature.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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I'll be trying to get my contacts to use Google Talk. It has all the features of Skype, including video conferencing, for free.

I know absolutely nobody who uses Google Talk. Posting on Facebook "Does anyone here really use Google Talk?" there was a roaring silence in response. I can't for the life of me see why you would go from a minor evil service like Skype/MSN/whatever with a variety of clients to choose from to a monsterous big-brother service like Google Talk. Aren't we giving Google enough power and dominance as it is? Edit: To commen…

I use "google talk" by using my own Jabber server. Google talk intergrates with XMPP very nicely. Even video chat works. Google Talks interoperability makes it the best choice for the average consumer.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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I don't see why people would quit using Skype now. The fact that it has been bought by Microsoft doesn't change that Skype is evil. It already was. It already was a closed source software using a proprietary protocol and doing stuff you don't know with your bandwidth. Don't get me wrong, it's great if people switch from Skype to something free (as in freedom), but not if it's because it has been bought by Microsoft,…

When Skype is installed, it changes each phone number in your browser to a Skype button. For years webdesigners have been going crazy trying to convince either their clients to uninstall Skype or Skype to provide a durable fix for not wanting your phone-numbers highlighted.

You can safely call the Skype extension evil malware, if your giant call-to-action phonenumber is forced to be written like this: 012-34[span style="display:none"]_[/span]5678 or it becomes hijacked by a video chat program.

This thread starts at 2007 and goes downhill from there: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=78380 (Look at the meta tag solution, that works for a while, but doesn't work in XHTML strict. Microsoft and Skype definitely deserve each other)

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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I'll be trying to get my contacts to use Google Talk. It has all the features of Skype, including video conferencing, for free.

I know absolutely nobody who uses Google Talk. Posting on Facebook "Does anyone here really use Google Talk?" there was a roaring silence in response. I can't for the life of me see why you would go from a minor evil service like Skype/MSN/whatever with a variety of clients to choose from to a monsterous big-brother service like Google Talk. Aren't we giving Google enough power and dominance as it is? Edit: To commen…

All of my friends and coworkers use Google Talk. I don't even have MSN! (and I barely use Skype, since my desktop computer doesn't have webcam nor microphone). In the end, I use the videochat feature on GMail, because it actually works pretty well.

I guess it all depends of the people around you.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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Are there any replacements which plug me into Australia's landline phone system for $12/month? Because that is Skype's primary utility, for me.

You might be able to find a SIP provider that is cheaper, I used to use one here in the states that was about $5/month.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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How many of those people do you want to video chat with regulary?

Most of them, because I actually work with them. It may come as a shock to some people, but the overwhelming majority of people--even in the tech would--literally could not care less if their VOIP client is FSF-approved and based on open standards. "Does it work?" is a much more powerful consideration.

>It may come as a shock to some people...

Outside of your strawmen, I don't think you're shocking anybody.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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Most of them, because I actually work with them. It may come as a shock to some people, but the overwhelming majority of people--even in the tech would--literally could not care less if their VOIP client is FSF-approved and based on open standards. "Does it work?" is a much more powerful consideration.

>It may come as a shock to some people... Outside of your strawmen, I don't think you're shocking anybody.

I dunno, the concept seems rather foreign to the person I replied to.

In the general case, for the overwhelming majority of people, things that work are more important than things that are ideologically pure.

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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I don't see why people would quit using Skype now. The fact that it has been bought by Microsoft doesn't change that Skype is evil. It already was. It already was a closed source software using a proprietary protocol and doing stuff you don't know with your bandwidth. Don't get me wrong, it's great if people switch from Skype to something free (as in freedom), but not if it's because it has been bought by Microsoft,…

When Skype is installed, it changes each phone number in your browser to a Skype button. For years webdesigners have been going crazy trying to convince either their clients to uninstall Skype or Skype to provide a durable fix for not wanting your phone-numbers highlighted. You can safely call the Skype extension evil malware, if your giant call-to-action phonenumber is forced to be written like this: 012-34[span sty…

Does it? I still see numbers normally in all my 3 browsers (Chrome, Opera, Safari).

Re: Bye Bye Skype, Top 3 Free Replacements

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The simple reason is that the Linux version of Skype might be axed as a result of the acquisition. This has happened before.

Except that they refuted that very statement in their press release Skype will support Microsoft devices like Xbox and Kinect, Windows Phone and a wide array of Windows devices, and Microsoft will connect Skype users with Lync, Outlook, Xbox Live and other communities. Microsoft will continue to invest in and support Skype clients on non-Microsoft platforms. http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2011/may11/05-10Co…

What happens is they will support it for 2 years and then drop it.

See: http://www.afterdawn.com/news/press_releases/press_release.c...

and 2 years later: http://www.cio.com/article/532513/Microsoft_to_Drop_Linux_Un...

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