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BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards

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Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards

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Post by bryanmgreen »

enos_feedler wrote: post #273
moooo99 wrote: post #159

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> Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. Can confirm. BMW used to be quite innovative, at least on the scale of German automakers, with their connect services. We have a fairly…

BMW went on stage at WWDC this year to talk about Digital Key for the car. Their marketing page said it works on all 2021 models. The detailed list says Series 1, 2, 3, etc.. I thought this feature is really cool. I am going to buy this car for it. I talked to 2 dealers and confirmed the feature. I looked up all the info online but could not find any more details. I bought a 2021 m240i for $50,000 USD. I could have g…

IOT is going to utterly trash the auto industry (which admittedly is already in poor shape) and make an even larger mess of the environment by turning cars into pre-mature waste - because you mentioned, it's not been thoughtfully implemented (and I doubt will be).

Think that digital key is going to work in 20 years when you're on iOS 44 or whatever? I'd be genuinely shocked.

Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards

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Post by [deleted] »

chrisseaton wrote: post #270
xienze wrote: post #214

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> So what is the upside to paying up front? A ceiling on the price? Now granted this is a BMW, so I wouldn’t dare own it outside of the warranty period, but I usually keep a car 10-15 years. So the longer I keep the car, the more this feature with a low, fixed cost, costs? Screw that.

> A ceiling on the price? So just factor that into your equation. Some people would prefer a ceiling, some flexibility. The point is it isn't obviously and inherently a 'scam.' It's just a different way to price and pay for things.

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Post by maest »

andylynch wrote: post #144
FourthProtocol wrote: post #66

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This is possible now that Brexit has happened. Whether the UK will need to comply with GDPR or not is dependent on the deal Boris strikes with the EU, if indeed he ever does.

Not quite - GDPR has been onshored into UK law and in effect little changes. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/data-protection-at-the-...

Most EU laws are getting grandfathered in post Brexit, but the UK reserves the right to change them whenever they want. In essence, they've branched off their legal code from the EU bramch and can now commit changes to their orivate UK-only branch.

GDPR rights will most likely get eroded in the UK.

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Post by realityking »

moooo99 wrote: post #159
PedroBatista wrote: post #143

It makes sense, BMW quit being a car company in the past few years. Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. It’s starting to happen and will get even worse, BMW will have a tough…

> Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. Can confirm. BMW used to be quite innovative, at least on the scale of German automakers, with their connect services. We have a fairly…

> CarPlay is a subscription

Fortunately they cut that shit out a year ago: https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/4/20995630/bmw-apple-carpla...

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Post by markus_zhang »

tartoran wrote: post #225
markus_zhang wrote: post #136

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So basically everything is Chinese' fault, oh how important we are...

Not at all Chinese fault other than China being a huge market and companies tailoring one size fits all in order to profit more. This is a bad strategy and will likely please neither market in the end

Anyway plz don't blame the customers.

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Post by radu_floricica »

grawprog wrote: post #254
PedroBatista wrote: post #143

It makes sense, BMW quit being a car company in the past few years. Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. It’s starting to happen and will get even worse, BMW will have a tough…

>It makes sense, BMW quit being a car company in the past few years. BMW has always first and foremost been a logo marketing company. They exist so moderately rich people can show off how moderately rich they are by driving a car with a BMW logo on it.

I currently own a 23 yo and a 10 yo BMW. The first is a fun fun fun car to drive, and the reason I haven't sold it yet. The second is an awesome car... and cost me an ungodly amount of money to get and keep in shape.

They definitely were a car enthusiast company, at some point. My next car will be Japanese.

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Post by radu_floricica »

b4mboozler wrote: post #209
janoc wrote: post #100

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Teslas fit just fine into European cities, they are no larger than BMWs or a VW Passat, not to mention the humongous SUV "tanks" that seem to be so popular. Tesla isn't that popular in Europe simply because most are not insane enough to spend 80kEUR for Model S - for that price one can easily have a Porsche or some other real luxury or sports car. And Model 3 is very overpriced for what it is. 55k EUR? For a compact…

That is a very high level observation, although I do not disagree entirely. You should not forget about countries like Norway, the Netherland and Switzerland where people really have valley-like salaries. EV registration numbers are going thru the roof in Norway and the Netherlands. Also, the most basic Cayenne costs 100k EUR, at least in Switzerland.

Tax policy in some of those countries is doing a lot to equalize the playing field.

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Post by _Understated_ »

andred14 wrote: post #299

News to distract from the fact that the tyrannical UK government has locked everyone down for what data and science now show is clearly no emergency

Just to say, you may get downvoted to hell for your statement but fwiw I firmly believe this too now! I mean the non-science-y way this is being handled, not that this is to distract :)

Edit: edited for clarity

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