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Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by jacquesm » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:18 PM UTC

corytheboyd wrote: post #144

jacquesm wrote: post #134

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If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me now. Meanwhile, I'll plug https://pianojacq.com/ which I wrote to help practice (digital or silent) piano.

> If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me know Will do! That is of course the focal point of any code I write for this, and it’s very tricky. To perhaps give you a little more confidence that I might figure this out, I know it’s not as simple as forwarding midi data through WebRTC and playing it on receipt on the other end ;) This gist of how I do it now i…

I have one good friend in Berlin who is working on the same problem, would you like an intro?

If so send me an email please, jacques@modularcompany.com

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by nkingsy » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:19 PM UTC

alisonkisk wrote: post #104

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> even just want to try it out for a year or two If you're already thinking about trying it for a year or two, you're serious enough that a teacher will be far more helpful than an app, and a cheap, small, non-weighted midi keyboard will limit you a lot. > But if you just want to make music in a modern way (on the computer) Acoustic or digital, music is more than a series of button presses. All the things I mentioned…

$100 vs $1000+ is a big deal.

Casio makes some tremendous keyboards these days. The Privia line is across the board excellent and can be found used for $250 or less.

Adding my vote for never ever touching an “el cheapo” instrument. A junk keyboard and guitar made me think I disliked those instruments as a younger person, and it makes me sad when I see kids struggling with instruments that I can’t make sound good with years of experience.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by sandGorgon » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:19 PM UTC

corytheboyd wrote: post #144

jacquesm wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me now. Meanwhile, I'll plug https://pianojacq.com/ which I wrote to help practice (digital or silent) piano.

> If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me know Will do! That is of course the focal point of any code I write for this, and it’s very tricky. To perhaps give you a little more confidence that I might figure this out, I know it’s not as simple as forwarding midi data through WebRTC and playing it on receipt on the other end ;) This gist of how I do it now i…

I would like to get in one that. I have gotten to the point in my lonely piano journey that I understand that one must start practicing Hanon and Czerny. Yet there's no guided app for that.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by cipherboy » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:19 PM UTC

kosma wrote: post #16

actuator wrote: post #6

Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

Violin at ripe old age of 25. The key for me was enjoyment... playing with others, picking the kind of music I vibe with, not bothering with exercises that are devoid of emotion and joy. I slapped frets on my violin to make the learning curve easier, which made a few people raise an eyebrow, but... I don't care. I'm here to enjoy it, not to become a purist. Can I real sheet music? Nope. Do I understand all the fancy…

\o fellow violinist here. Never thought about frets, but a lot of people (myself included) started with tape on their fingerboard. Usually it'd only go to about 2nd position at most. You have a reference point for where to place your finger, but it doesn't impact pitch (and prevent vibrato) as much as a fret would.

Just something to think about... :)

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by wizzwizz4 » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:22 PM UTC

LeSaucy wrote: post #10

amelius wrote: post #3

I wish piano methods would offer me the choice of genre (jazz, latin, classical, ...) and that they would start with songs that are perhaps technically simple, but still interesting from a musical viewpoint.

Most method books will touch on a wide variety of genres, usually to illustrate specific topics in music theory. If you can’t reason about intervals/scales, key, and chord progressions, “learning” genres like jazz will be like trying to learn differential calculus before linear algebra.

Calculus in practice involves a lot of symbol manipulation, so it's important to understand the symbols. Jazz in practice involves a lot of playing an instrument, so it's important to understand…

Fill in the blank. I don't know about you, but I don't fill it in with “music theory”.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by sandGorgon » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:23 PM UTC

verroq wrote: post #66

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The alternative is "never starting because of high barrier to entry," not "starting with better habits."

Let's not kid ourselves, the chances of any normal person learning by themselves without a teacher to any kind of mastery is zero. Most won't have to the drive to continue even after two weeks. "Starting" doesn't mean anything, anyone can "start". It's trivial to start.

Im not flaming you, but I would genuinely recommend you check out videos of people learning to play using Flowkey, SimplyPiano, etc. People get to a decent state.

And take everything that has been written (barrier to entry, etc) and add COVID isolation into the mix. We are still in this mess for another 9 months about.

Im not arguing about teacher vs app in the most generic sense...but one can spend 30 mins a day with an app on wireless earphones and get to a pretty decent State for playing is worth it.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by rubyn00bie » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:25 PM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #147

rubyn00bie wrote: post #135

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Nice slur drop... for literally no reason. > to an el cheapo midi keyboard. El cheapo? You could just have said cheap and not come across as prick.

LOL, never realized that was a slur — I've heard it most of my life and took it to be humorous in a self-deprecating way: as in I'm so dumb this is how I think you can fake speaking Spanish. Like "cheapio midio" is my attempt at Italian.

Really? I honestly can’t express how truly depressing and miserable your comment is. Self deprecating to use another language incorrectly to “humble” yourself? Seems pretty obviously racist. It’s like saying “Ching Chong China virus” and calling it self-deprecating. Petty fucking gross.

Wish I had the confidence of a white person to never think about my affect on others... or what language can do. Let alone to get paid like one since I get to put up with ignorant shit like this on the daily.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by kranner » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #132

kranner wrote: post #121

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Digital pianos around the $500 mark are pretty good these days.

Seconded, Yamaha, Kawai and Roland all make gear in that price range that is nothing short of incredible in terms of quality and sound. Besides the fact that they don't need tuning like an acoustic would and which tends to add up over time.

Just putting in a vote for my Casio Privia PX-S1000.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by jonfromsf » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

kosma wrote: post #16

actuator wrote: post #6

Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

Violin at ripe old age of 25. The key for me was enjoyment... playing with others, picking the kind of music I vibe with, not bothering with exercises that are devoid of emotion and joy. I slapped frets on my violin to make the learning curve easier, which made a few people raise an eyebrow, but... I don't care. I'm here to enjoy it, not to become a purist. Can I real sheet music? Nope. Do I understand all the fancy…

Putting frets on your fiddle is a brilliant idea. Well done!

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Post by corytheboyd » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

sandGorgon wrote: post #153

corytheboyd wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me know Will do! That is of course the focal point of any code I write for this, and it’s very tricky. To perhaps give you a little more confidence that I might figure this out, I know it’s not as simple as forwarding midi data through WebRTC and playing it on receipt on the other end ;) This gist of how I do it now i…

I would like to get in one that. I have gotten to the point in my lonely piano journey that I understand that one must start practicing Hanon and Czerny. Yet there's no guided app for that.

I’m no teacher so I can’t tell you confidently what’s write or wrong. I definitely don’t practice those, they’re honestly kinda boring to me. My musical goal is more about getting a decent understanding of practical playing and theory through a book that does a bit of both (the older beginner is what it’s called) as well as finding our own songs to work through and use to learn about theory. The teacher who swears by tedious exercise like Hanon would probably disagree, but I really like it, and I feel like it’s still very productive!