This is illegal. Simple as that. It's obviously not going to happen.
A person's warrantee is PII, so making it public will land them with a huge GDPR fine.
BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards
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Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards
#232It makes sense, BMW quit being a car company in the past few years. Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. It’s starting to happen and will get even worse, BMW will have a tough…
BMW seem to have always had fairly nutty UIs in their cars. It was consistently brought up in loads of car reviews going back to the early 2000s (both Top Gear through to the more serious articles).
The thing with a big knob behind the gear stick was really hard to use (i-Drive from years ago)
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah right, I might have missed your point, if "subscription" is the only thing you're objecting to. First, it's obviously a scam. I'm not getting extra value in exchange for money, the product is done. It's even worse than various software subscriptions - at least there your code is continuously being improved and updated to the latest version. Therefore, literally the only reason the company is doing that, is to scam…
> I'm not getting extra value in exchange for money Wait, if you're not getting extra value from the product every extra month you use it, then stop paying the subscription! That's the beauty of it!
It seems like you're trying to catch this guy out for cognitive dissonance but I'm not seeing it.
CarPlay is offered in perfectly functional forms in the market right now for a reasonable upfront price that people will pay for a known feature set.
A subscription arguably can make the product less valuable, because of uncertainty about continuing support, changes to the subscription model or software, and an unknown price that will likely end up being higher than the flat fee offered by competitors.
This isn't cognitive dissonance, it's worry that BMW might pull a bait and switch.
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#234In my circle (relatively young and educated people in a 2nd world country) Tesla has completely supplanted BMW et al as 'the exclusive car brand'.
This is a weird statement. There's nothing exclusive about the Model 3 or the criminally ugly SUV.
Now, if you meant to say that the Model S is exclusive, you'd be right. Buying one of those puts a person in the exclusive club of people who were too stupid to spend the money on an A8 or a 760 instead.
Edit: An S class would also be a good option. But Heaven help the person who thinks a Model S is in the same league as any of the other $100k cars. Its ride quality is trash. The interior is trash. I've heard plenty of people get defensive about the Model S, but I've never heard anyone mount a real defense of it.
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#235All this negativity around BMW and no one even mentions the word "money pit"?
Besides the shitty anti-consumer practices, besides the lack of turn signal usage from average BMW drivers, these cars are still trash unless you're leasing because they are absolute money pits.
Even the Germans in germany who own BMWs and religiously take care of them will have to deal with ultra expensive repairs and problems that one wouldn't find on a Toyota or Lexus.
Germans over-engineer their cars. There are 10 bolts on an engine in a place where a competitor would use two Kinda cool though in a schadenfreude way, because BMW drivers are insufferable about "the ultimate driving machine" right up until the first repair bill comes and then they're suddenly much more interested in japanese naturally aspirated engine vehicles...
Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards
#236Coming at you from the same company that wants you to pay every year to use CarPlay.
Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
CarPlay is no longer a subscription. They are also one of the few automakers to implement wireless CarPlay and it works flawlessly.
As much as I prefer CarPlay over the default UI of most cars, I had to disable it on my 2019 i3 because it was an unusable disaster.
Interesting. My car has iDrive 6 (not the latest version) and is a 2018 MY and it’s been fantastic.
Re: BMW to shame out-of-warranty UK drivers with smart billboards
#238It makes sense, BMW quit being a car company in the past few years. Now they’re just clueless assholes. I’ve seen it in their IT systems, their design teams are either on crack or got outsourced to 4 year olds and their product/sales gurus are a mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism. It’s starting to happen and will get even worse, BMW will have a tough…
> mix of bean counters incapable of producing an original idea and a bunch of lifers running on nepotism.
"The father buys, the son builds, the grandchild sells, and his son begs"
The grandchildren are too far removed from what it took to raise the golden cow. So they just milk it.
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#239I used to really like BMWs but they have lost their way in my opinion. Front wheel drive models, charging a subscription for Apple CarPlay, that 4-series grill, increasingly horrific customer service at dealers and foregoing their position as the market leader in handling and dynamics really rub me up the wrong way.
M2cs or M5c are still by far the best cars in their class. While I'm not a fan of BMW's new design language (think the 4-series, or the iX), nor their move to subscription-based features, it's still my go-to brand. Other (non-exotic) brands are either downsizing (2.0 engine in the new C63 AMG for gods sake) or going fully electric – and I like my v8 rumble in the morning.
Isn't BMWs V8 rumble recorded and piped through speakers?
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
M2cs or M5c are still by far the best cars in their class. While I'm not a fan of BMW's new design language (think the 4-series, or the iX), nor their move to subscription-based features, it's still my go-to brand. Other (non-exotic) brands are either downsizing (2.0 engine in the new C63 AMG for gods sake) or going fully electric – and I like my v8 rumble in the morning.
Not sure why you're being down-voted, the M2 and the M5 are among the best driver-focused cars being made right now (a dying breed, those driver-focused cars, but that's another discussion), but that still shouldn't excuse BMW for dick moves like this one (I consider it a dick move).
The Ms are overweight pigs, not drivers cars.