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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

I began learning piano at age 27.

Piano fingering technique is very important. That's not just which finger hits which key, but also the posture of your finger. That could be what's straining your fingers and giving you trouble reaching keys.

I found a local piano teacher and took weekly lessons. The piano teacher caught these bad habits like finger technique, but also how hard to hit the keys and other things that I wouldn't have noticed on my own.

If you are set on self-learning, getting a few lessons every once in a while will help you stay on track.

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

I picked up the guitar a few years back in my mid 30s, did lessons for a year, took a year off and got back into it through Covid-19.

> I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored

This maps to my first experience. Your first obstacle is the UI and getting your hands to do what your brain wants them to do without thinking about it. For myself learning guitar, this was the hardest obstacle. Once you sort out the mechanics of playing without thinking, you can start thinking about the music and actually having fun.

My only question is, do you really want to learn the piano?

Cause you need to want it, to get through those first few weeks/months of getting used to the UI. Until you break that barrier it's going to be un-fun and sound terrible and be very frustrating. The desire to play needs to be great enough to push through that. If you don't want it, you'll struggle to force yourself to push through.

To answer your actual question, Youtube and other musicians are what I feel most help me grow right now. I've done in person classes, bought books, bought multiple online classes and trawled Youtube for endless hours looking for lessons and song play alongs (getting a sense of the pattern of how important really wanting to learn to play is?). It wasn't until I started playing with other musicians that my abilities and understanding really took off.

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I wish piano methods would offer me the choice of genre (jazz, latin, classical, ...) and that they would start with songs that are perhaps technically simple, but still interesting from a musical viewpoint.

Most method books will touch on a wide variety of genres, usually to illustrate specific topics in music theory. If you can’t reason about intervals/scales, key, and chord progressions, “learning” genres like jazz will be like trying to learn differential calculus before linear algebra.

Not sure about this analogy, since linear algebra is largely orthogonal to single-variable calculus. Agreed on the musical part though.

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

In reddit /r/piano there are a lot of similar questions, and as someone learning piano in their 50s is always amuses me.

I self-tought to about an ABRSM grade 1 level before getting a teacher, but I had done a little bit (less than a year) as a small kid.

Particularly the early stages are very hard and it takes a lot of practice to do seemlingly trivial things. It is a differnet skill from touch typing. I find the "Dozen a Day" books of studies really good for training your fingers to do what you want them to, instead of what they want to do.

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

Violin at ripe old age of 25. The key for me was enjoyment... playing with others, picking the kind of music I vibe with, not bothering with exercises that are devoid of emotion and joy. I slapped frets on my violin to make the learning curve easier, which made a few people raise an eyebrow, but... I don't care. I'm here to enjoy it, not to become a purist.

Can I real sheet music? Nope. Do I understand all the fancy words describing techniques? No. Am I good at this? Good enough that when I play, people dance. That counts as a success in my book.

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

I'm enjoying working through the Faber Adult Piano Adventures books: https://pianoadventures.com/browse/libraries/piano-adventure...

I started learning the piano in my 20s, and now have been playing it for over 10 years.

The key for me was to forego all theory learning and just have fun with it. Eventually, I got into it enough to go through all the memorization bits.

If piano sounds appealing to you, I recommend using software like Synthesia to make the first few months as easy as possible, to get excited about it.

I have the impression that many people learning instruments, and sadly also many teachers, take an approach that kills motivation. It seems to me that very few people want to become professionals, and that most just want to be able to play a few songs and have fun. For that you don't need perfect posture, or learn all the scales, sight read, etc.

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I just started learning piano in the COVID lockdown. The best and cheapest way to learn is use an app: Simply Piano(android+ios), Piano Marvel(ios), etc and connect it to an el cheapo midi keyboard.

this allows you to spend the next 6 months learning without anyone getting disturbed..while the app gives you realtime feedback about which keys you are pressing.

you wont miss the lack of a teacher...especially during the lockdown.

dont buy an expensive piano. Dont buy books and methods. Learning this way is like playing a game...and arguably much better than Cyberpunk 2077 ;)

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

Finger fatigue suggests you're holding tension in your fingers and wrists. A good teacher can help you with that. You need to learn to keep your fingers and wrists as relaxed as possible - which is unbelievably hard to do when you're also trying to learn how to read music.

Watch some slow piano music being played by a concert pianist, and you'll see that - except for the odd flourish - they move fingers and wrists as little as possible. The hands float, they don't hover in a tense way.

It also depends on the keyboard you're using. There's a big difference between a soft and fast keyboard action and a piano action with real or simulated hammers. The latter is much harder on your fingers to start with, but gives you more control and stamina later.

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

In reddit /r/piano there are a lot of similar questions, and as someone learning piano in their 50s is always amuses me. I self-tought to about an ABRSM grade 1 level before getting a teacher, but I had done a little bit (less than a year) as a small kid. Particularly the early stages are very hard and it takes a lot of practice to do seemlingly trivial things. It is a differnet skill from touch typing. I find the "D…

I tried to learn guitar a couple of years ago. I wanted to learn something which required me to use my fingers differently than on a keyboard. But, as someone in their 50s with a lifetime of working on software I found it practically impossible to get my fingers to curve the way they needed to for the guitar. The physical pain eventually made me give up. If anyone has any tips to work around this limitation will be great to hear
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