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Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by pjmorris »

tonystride wrote: post #243

Wow reading discussion of music consumption on HN is so surreal for me as a working pianist / keyboardist / accordionist / educator. There’s a guilty pleasure I derive from mostly feeling unworthy when reading through HN posts about tech, you all are amazing! At the same time I really appreciate that HN is aware of your minority tech nerd preferences compared to the greater consumer population who are perfectly happy…

> made fun of me a lot for listening to every episode of Marion Mcpartland’s ‘Piano Jazz’ that’s available on Spotify...

That's not you, that's bad AI :)

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by randomstring »

t0mbstone wrote: post #252

As someone who listens to spotify all day while programming, here's my secret to success: I create a playlist to fit a mood (for example, ambient electronic music with a good beat and no words), and I seed it with at least 10 songs. Then, I go down to the "Recommended Songs" section and I just play whatever it recommends. If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard. The vast majority of what it recom…

Pandora's suggestion algorithm is much better than Spotify's. What you describe is what I used to do with Pandora. I migrated to Spotify several years ago.

Spotify generates some decent genre based playlists based on my listening history. Not as good as Pandora was.

Lately with the pandemic, I've created a super-chill, ambient play list (I started with Moby's Long Ambients and expanded from there) to relax before bedtime. This has been really helpful for unwinding in these stressful times.

However, an unintended consequence is that Spotify now thinks I listen to soothing ambient more than 50% of the time. My year in music is all ambient and my suggested play lists are all wishy-washy now. Apparently there is no "ignore this playlist when tracking usage." You can only manually disable tracking under "Settings > Social" and it times out after every session.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by royaltjames »

t0mbstone wrote: post #252

As someone who listens to spotify all day while programming, here's my secret to success: I create a playlist to fit a mood (for example, ambient electronic music with a good beat and no words), and I seed it with at least 10 songs. Then, I go down to the "Recommended Songs" section and I just play whatever it recommends. If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard. The vast majority of what it recom…

Thank you for saying this. I've been trying to use Spotify for a year now and it leaves so much to be desired on process. You're doing gods work

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by nouney »

etherio wrote: post #7

This is hilarious... > You are 26% basic. You're trying to be cool with Kapitan Korsakov, but your favorites are the same as everybody else's.. > Your spotify was please-read-my-manuscript-walmart-hawaiian-shirt-sitting-alone-in-the-cafeteria bad. Ouch. Really interesting project by all means. I hope they release the source - I'm curious about how it was built. Edit: This same link was posted 11 hours ago https://new…

But you ARE cool for listening to Kapitan Korsakov!

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by klmadfejno »

randomstring wrote: post #432
t0mbstone wrote: post #252

As someone who listens to spotify all day while programming, here's my secret to success: I create a playlist to fit a mood (for example, ambient electronic music with a good beat and no words), and I seed it with at least 10 songs. Then, I go down to the "Recommended Songs" section and I just play whatever it recommends. If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard. The vast majority of what it recom…

Pandora's suggestion algorithm is much better than Spotify's. What you describe is what I used to do with Pandora. I migrated to Spotify several years ago. Spotify generates some decent genre based playlists based on my listening history. Not as good as Pandora was. Lately with the pandemic, I've created a super-chill, ambient play list (I started with Moby's Long Ambients and expanded from there) to relax before bed…

I haven't used Pandora in a decade, but when I did, it strongly preferred to play mainstream artists, and within artists, only a handful of specific tracks. They weren't bad choices, but I got pretty bored of them.

Spotify takes a lot more risks and I think its highly preferable.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by Alupis »

t0mbstone wrote: post #252

As someone who listens to spotify all day while programming, here's my secret to success: I create a playlist to fit a mood (for example, ambient electronic music with a good beat and no words), and I seed it with at least 10 songs. Then, I go down to the "Recommended Songs" section and I just play whatever it recommends. If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard. The vast majority of what it recom…

I'm dumbfounded people still put up with this mess on Spotify. Pandora's discovery, recommendations, and shuffle algorithms are objectively superior to Spotify - yet, everyone still seems to use Spotify none-the-less.

Discovery, recommendations and shuffle are at the heart of what made Pandora a thing... it's literally what Pandora was built on back when it was purely a seeded radio of sorts. Whereas Spotify more-or-less bolted on these features later in the product life... and it shows.

The "shuffle" alone on Spotify was enough to send me running. Have a playlist with 200 songs from 80 different artists? Well, we'll just play this one artist - the same album even! - back to back to back until you're annoyed enough to manually select the next song!

I understood people flocking to Spotify back when it was the only game in town that allowed you to play specific songs, make playlists, and "download" songs for offline (airplane) playback. But now Pandora does all this too - and has for the past several years. The two services are even priced about the same...

So, if Spotify is so bad, as would seem evidenced by all these HN threads that pop up from time-to-time, why do people continue to use it?

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by rongdongdong »

dm319 wrote: post #138
etherio wrote: post #7

This is hilarious... > You are 26% basic. You're trying to be cool with Kapitan Korsakov, but your favorites are the same as everybody else's.. > Your spotify was please-read-my-manuscript-walmart-hawaiian-shirt-sitting-alone-in-the-cafeteria bad. Ouch. Really interesting project by all means. I hope they release the source - I'm curious about how it was built. Edit: This same link was posted 11 hours ago https://new…

> You are 0% basic. Have you considered there's a reason nobody listens to Mistabishi?. > > Your spotify was ira-glass-in-your-airpods-manic-pixie-dream-girl bad. Made me laugh!

i mean there was him loosing all those bookings after going on racist rants on facebook. i think he used to get banned from dogs on acid a lot for being a dumb asshole too https://mixmag.net/read/drum-n-bass-producer-mistabishi-has-...

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by amelius »

t0mbstone wrote: post #252

As someone who listens to spotify all day while programming, here's my secret to success: I create a playlist to fit a mood (for example, ambient electronic music with a good beat and no words), and I seed it with at least 10 songs. Then, I go down to the "Recommended Songs" section and I just play whatever it recommends. If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard. The vast majority of what it recom…

> If I don't like a song, I hit the skip button on my keyboard.

Which button is that?

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Post by awild »

simplify wrote: post #336
mariusor wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great suggestions. You might know them but I want to add Nik Bärtsch's Ronin[1], The Bad Plus[2], Nils Petter Molvær[3] and maybe some Ibrahim Maalouf[4]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8eL95fIQbk [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNI-2i6t7Zs [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edT6QGBmkrc [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpg8jBFaj3c

The Bad Plus (version 1) is such an unreasonable concentration of extraordinary talent, I haven't yet found anything else that comes close.

Essbjörn Svenson Trio, all of their records are great, however Leucocyte is on a whole different plane; it has been my favourite record for the last 15 years. It's however quite moody, Tuesday Wonderland is far more accessible while also being extremely good.

Haven't listened to them in a while, but I also enjoyed listening to Tingvall Trio, though I remember them as being more atmospheric. There's also Vijay Iyer Trio, I specifically remember Accelerando well, but that's a long time ago.

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