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Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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The fees on .org are expensive compared to the other top level domains com/net

I recently switched from org to the countrycode version for a domain that was available and saved half of the cost.

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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The fees on .org are expensive compared to the other top level domains com/net I recently switched from org to the countrycode version for a domain that was available and saved half of the cost.

So $1 per month instead of $2?

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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The fees on .org are expensive compared to the other top level domains com/net I recently switched from org to the countrycode version for a domain that was available and saved half of the cost.

So $1 per month instead of $2?

Not everyone counts their holdings in USD. That price difference may be what sets a launched and abandoned project apart.

One of my neighbors is 17 and interested in coding and computers. I'd say their family MAYBE brings in 250 USD a month -- but probably less. A dollar can be a lot.

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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I love a lot of what the EFF does, but this campaign, and many other organizations involved in it got a lot wrong. The real issue, that in fairness the EFF leads with, was the change in the .org contract, not the sale itself. The most robust overview of the whole thing that I have read can be found here: https://www.internetgovernance.org/2020/05/01/no-real-winner...

Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, including .org, is a commercial endeavor. It doesn't make sense to focus only on .org, when a) Registrars not Registries are the real place to try and protect Registrants. b) Org has always been open to anyone, and their are likely as many, if not more civil society organizations in com, net, and other tlds.

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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I love a lot of what the EFF does, but this campaign, and many other organizations involved in it got a lot wrong. The real issue, that in fairness the EFF leads with, was the change in the .org contract, not the sale itself. The most robust overview of the whole thing that I have read can be found here: https://www.internetgovernance.org/2020/05/01/no-real-winner... Whether people like it or not the operation of the…

> Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, including .org, is a commercial endeavor.

It's about disparate impact, as is the case in many things that have extensive histories around them.

That .org was allowed to drift from its original mission of being the "catch-all / noncommercial" zone of the DNS doesn't mean we shouldn't work to nudge it back to that original ideal. At a minimum, allowing what is arguably a public good (DNS is a limited space, though less limited than phone numbers or RF allocations) to be transferred and barricaded is not good.

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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I love a lot of what the EFF does, but this campaign, and many other organizations involved in it got a lot wrong. The real issue, that in fairness the EFF leads with, was the change in the .org contract, not the sale itself. The most robust overview of the whole thing that I have read can be found here: https://www.internetgovernance.org/2020/05/01/no-real-winner... Whether people like it or not the operation of the…

>Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, including .org, is a commercial endeavor

Whether people like it or not, this doesn't have to mean privatized, nor profitable.

Re: How We Saved Dot Org

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Ah yes, bravo EFF, you've won another battle barely keeping us at the status quo.

When are you going to stop playing whack-a-mole trying to defend against every assault on internet freedoms and go on the offensive and try to win the game for the good guys?

We now have the ability to give the poorest child on earth access to the same information as the richest, and yet we allow industry to shackle us instead.

It's time to demand intellectual freedom. #AbolishCopyright. #AbolishPatents. #AbolishImaginaryPropertyLaws

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