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How bad is your Spotify?

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Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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This was fun. I like that the AI had a bit of a personality.

In terms of bad vs. good, though, music is like a lot of things in life, so subjective that you can't judge another person's taste. If for no other reason than people care about music to wildly different degrees. I've met people who say they don't listen to music. As in ever. Others cannot let a minute go by without having something playing in their head. It's akin to judging taste in food or recreational activities or movies. It's not really about what's good, rather, what gets a positive mental response.

That point aside, I'd say that what would be interesting is measuring how broad a person's musical tastes are. I.e., how much have they been exposed to and how much of that have they assimilated into their regular listening rotation. Pandora does a pretty good job suggesting artists I've never heard. When I hear one I like, I'll incorporate some songs into my regular rotation on Spotify.

If you must know, I have Bad Taste. The bad as in Hawaiian shirt-etc.-etc.-etc.... bad.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Looking at title I thought it was rant about product quality. But it's not, so I'll provide mine. Since 2013 when I've started paying for Spotify it has turned from one of my favourite apps to one of those I hate most. On my previous Android phone it would freeze every other day when there was no internet. Why? Who knows. Could be related to me using SD card, or could be something else. The phone wasn't very old, but…

Spotify became entirely unusable for me when I started using Bluetooth headphones on my computer. When I turn them off, Spotify goes into some weird attempt to play every single song in rapid succession as it has no Output device to play to. Finally crashing so bad that I have to end the process and reopen it. It doesn't help that I've reported that a long time ago and even though the QA triage should have marked this as a low hanging fruit, nothing has happened. // rant end, I know this post doesn't help anything but venting is always a form of self-therapy haha

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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lol that’s really cute. Spotify permissions it asks for make sense. It was really confused by all the kid music I play. Why so much Raffi? Their training set must not include people with children. :)

I was asked > "You listen to 'Super Simple Songs' a lot. I mean A LOT. Are you ok?"

Same here just swap in Raffi. I wonder if it asks that if everyone top?

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Funny, but I was hoping this might provide some insight into why my Spotify is so bad, even by my own tastes. Spotify constantly queues and recommends songs to me that are so bad, I can’t even imagine how there could possibly exist any data indicating that any significant sample of listeners has ever enjoyed hearing them. Spotify has 5+ years of my listening history, and orders of magnitude more data from listeners a…

Hilariously I just switched from Apple Music to Spotify and had the exact opposite experience! I wonder if recommendations get "stale" so you get bad ones, where as if you switch services you get recommendations based on different data sets so they're temporarily better.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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Funny, but I was hoping this might provide some insight into why my Spotify is so bad, even by my own tastes. Spotify constantly queues and recommends songs to me that are so bad, I can’t even imagine how there could possibly exist any data indicating that any significant sample of listeners has ever enjoyed hearing them. Spotify has 5+ years of my listening history, and orders of magnitude more data from listeners a…

> might provide some insight into why my Spotify is so bad, even by my own tastes. That's just Spotify. The AI did a better job of figuring out what I like (138 and uplifting trance) than Spotify does (EDM). I blame it in Armin van Buuren: he is an extremely popular EDM DJ and he plays a very wide variety of EDM. If you listen to EDM chances are he has at least a few dozen sets you'd enjoy. That's the problem: he's p…

I don't think that's a bad thing per se, if the algorithm correctly identifies that you like EDM. We then come to the micro-genre discussion - how specific are you in your tastes, and how precise is the algorithm required to be?

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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post #38

Looking at title I thought it was rant about product quality. But it's not, so I'll provide mine. Since 2013 when I've started paying for Spotify it has turned from one of my favourite apps to one of those I hate most. On my previous Android phone it would freeze every other day when there was no internet. Why? Who knows. Could be related to me using SD card, or could be something else. The phone wasn't very old, but…

I've got the polar opposite opinion to yours. Spotify has been God's gift to mankind as far as my experience goes. I'll get the negative out of the way first: their UI teams loves to keep tweaking stuff, which is annoying. It's a stable app and they should leave it alone. Having said that, it's wonderful. I can download all my music. It has some truly wonderful playlists for when I'm coding. It's recommendation engin…

I completely fell in love with Pandora at first. New music discovery is one of my favorite things. Eventually, though, it stopped giving it to me. Despite having over 100 stations, I started hearing mostly repeats. Also, of the artists I liked, they were only playing me a small fraction of their work. And I missed albums.

Spotify has been a breath of fresh air, I switched a couple years ago. It is missing some stuff here & there, but I haven't hit too many bugs like others have (on Windows or Android), and their catalog is much bigger than Pandora's was when I was using it heavily. Turns out, what I needed was more content. What once seemed like Pandora's best strength - that 'special sauce' recommendation algorithm - is now clearly being done to a similar or greater level of competence by damn near everyone else in the space. And like you say, the podcast stuff has been solid & gotten better, too. These things never turn out how I expect.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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post #88

Funny, but I was hoping this might provide some insight into why my Spotify is so bad, even by my own tastes. Spotify constantly queues and recommends songs to me that are so bad, I can’t even imagine how there could possibly exist any data indicating that any significant sample of listeners has ever enjoyed hearing them. Spotify has 5+ years of my listening history, and orders of magnitude more data from listeners a…

I'm not typically one to buy into conspiracy theories, but I really can't help but wonder if the Spotify algorithm favors songs that have more favorable licensing terms. They have already announced they intend to let artists buy their way into playlists in the future https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/could-spotifys-new-discovery-...

Two years ago they were already shoving Drake all over paid subscribers' playlists[0]

I've paid for spotify for more than a decade and I definitely wasn't pleased to have every single playlist recommending an artist I don't like, and it was just ridiculous how EVERY[1] playlist had his photo regardless of the genre.

[0] https://exclaim.ca/music/article/drakes_face_was_all_over_sp...

[1] https://twitter.com/DanieleRose22/status/1013845491757568000

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> oh great another Rise Against stan... > You've been listening to a lot of Logic lately. > u okay? > >Yeah why > no reason... > Of course Twenty One Pilots. Not gonna lie, I'm feeling a bit judged by this AI:)

> You've been listening to a lot of Logic lately. > u okay? Asked the same thing to me, but about Radiohead.

Asked the same thing to me, but about The Replacements.

Re: How bad is your Spotify?

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post #88

Funny, but I was hoping this might provide some insight into why my Spotify is so bad, even by my own tastes. Spotify constantly queues and recommends songs to me that are so bad, I can’t even imagine how there could possibly exist any data indicating that any significant sample of listeners has ever enjoyed hearing them. Spotify has 5+ years of my listening history, and orders of magnitude more data from listeners a…

I'm not typically one to buy into conspiracy theories, but I really can't help but wonder if the Spotify algorithm favors songs that have more favorable licensing terms. They have already announced they intend to let artists buy their way into playlists in the future https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/could-spotifys-new-discovery-...

I think that is the case for every freemium services and social networks: they (must) reward and optimize users for profitability.
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