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Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

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Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#12

I wouldn't even charge for the privilege. As long as health care workers and nursing homes stay at the absolute head of the line, nothing else really matters until we hit herd immunity. Publicize how desperate the rich are to get the vaccine and that 60% willingness to get vaccinated will go up (which is a large part of what the article said). I think charging money to skip, just causes a whole raft of other problems…

>I think charging money to skip, just causes a whole raft of other problems.

Why?

>Let the elites think they are pulling strings and just give it to them.

But why not give it to them, but also try to extract money from them at the same time?

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#13
> In the first tier, 100 of the wealthiest Americans each donate $100 million to be first in line for a vaccine

For $100 mil you can buy a small biotech lab and create your own mRNA vaccine. They are not that complicated compared to classical vaccines, and the testing was basically done already by Pfizer/Moderna.

And for much less, surely there will be ways to "source" doses. It's ridiculous to think that many rich people will pay $100 mil for a dose.

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#14

I wouldn't even charge for the privilege. As long as health care workers and nursing homes stay at the absolute head of the line, nothing else really matters until we hit herd immunity. Publicize how desperate the rich are to get the vaccine and that 60% willingness to get vaccinated will go up (which is a large part of what the article said). I think charging money to skip, just causes a whole raft of other problems…

And grocery store workers, and people with preexisting conditions, and the elderly, and...

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#16
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The ultra-rich don't need a vaccine. They just get $150k stem cell injections into their neck.

You're downvoting a fact. Carry on.

Put yourselves in their shoes: they see a blunt affirmation about a medical treatment, without any source, nor any clear term that can be easily searchable in pubmed.

Since I do not doubt that you only mention a treatment you're read about in a serious peer-reviewed medecine journal, or have first-hand experience with, I completely understand how hard it must be for you to be downvoted.

Maybe take the occasion to enlighten us even more next time.

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#17
post #12

I wouldn't even charge for the privilege. As long as health care workers and nursing homes stay at the absolute head of the line, nothing else really matters until we hit herd immunity. Publicize how desperate the rich are to get the vaccine and that 60% willingness to get vaccinated will go up (which is a large part of what the article said). I think charging money to skip, just causes a whole raft of other problems…

>I think charging money to skip, just causes a whole raft of other problems. Why? >Let the elites think they are pulling strings and just give it to them. But why not give it to them, but also try to extract money from them at the same time?

You then have to account for and appropriately spend the money which will inevitably be politicized and contentious.

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#18
It would be intereseting to see the content organization targeting antivaxers switch from "the vaccine is dangerous, no famous people would take it" to "the vaccine is too expensive, they want to let us die !", probably via a short segway through "the vaccine is dangerous but the rich people are only pretending to take it so that they can kill you."

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#19

Set a price high enough that this becomes clearly a good thing: what about $25k/person, spent directly on vaccines for others? I've been thinking about the whole "public vaccination" virtue signaling that politicians have been doing. The most ethical path would be to be immunized publicly as a politician at the same time as your risk group rather than before, ideally as the last person in your risk group so you have…

>I've been thinking about the whole "public vaccination" virtue signaling that politicians have been doing. That's not virtue signaling, or not ONLY virtue signaling - they get priority due to continuity of government laws. See https://www.rollcall.com/2020/12/13/white-house-congress-jud... Now if they had integrity, the ones that dismissed, downplayed, ignored, refused to wear masks, etc. should have skipped their d…

Also there's a lot of anti-vax sentiment, and seeing politicians take the vaccine themselves helps counter that.

Re: Let the ultra-rich and influential skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines?

#20
Sounds good to me, let them be the guinea pigs. The ultra-rich and influential seem to be a renewable resource so it’s not like society will run out, if there are risks not found by tests thus far it won’t be swept under the rug, and they are not so numerous that they will make a serious impact on the supply chain.
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