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Post by confidantlake »

berryjerry wrote: post #261
kibwen wrote: post #232

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People don't get more conservative as they get older, they get more conservative when they have more to lose . It just so happens that as people get older they tend to get houses, families, long-term careers, etc, which tilts them towards preserving the status quo in amber so as not to threaten what they have. And if, hypothetically, a generation were to grow up and find themselves unable to afford a home of their ow…

People get more conservative as they get older because they realize things cost money, how hard they have to work to earn it, and how bad the government is at spending it for them. I'd say modern day conservativism is more akin to individualism - don't let others spend money for you because you spend your money more wisely, and if you don't it's your fault. I think you'll find most young people don't even make the co…

Modern conservatives loves to spend taxpayer money right up until they are out of office. Not a peep about the budget deficits the past 4 years, but now suddenly it matters again.

Re: Voat Is Shutting Down

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Post by novok »

sneak wrote: post #578
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #517

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> Drugs are banned in sport to avoid people using "artifical" enhancements to their innate trained abilities. If someone gets genetic modification to enhance, say, their muscles abilities to use energy, how are you going to police that? > Have everyone playing submit their genome for examination? My point is is that it does not matter. What is current top competition sport is not natural anymore so I do not really ca…

> What is current top competition sport is not natural anymore so I do not really care about whether they take drugs (illegal today, maybe legal tomorrow) or not. Or modify they genome. Two things: This is a minority viewpoint. I believe most sports fans and participants want sports to remain free of exogenous performance enhancing drugs. The second: the situation you describe would disadvantage everyone who does not…

There is a big risk of causing permanent damage and significantly reduced lifespans by creating drug league, which has its own ethical issues. It would create incentives for people to push naive children or newly-adult into taking many drugs that will destroy the rest of their lives.

Drug league could have people dying mid competition, as they took too many drugs that they had a heart attack when trying to go all out, and that would create so much backlash and vicarious trauma that it gets shut down hard. I think it's the main reason why it doesn't exist.

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Post by secabeen »

UncleMeat wrote: post #469
eska wrote: post #444

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I challenge you to do it. You'll instantly be shadowbanned by bots from multiple subreddits, people will actively seek out your posts and point out you're an extremist on unrelated topics (again, triggered by bots pointing you out), and people will use your post history against you in arguments unrelated to whatever you said in those posts.

What challenge? The question of transgender people in sports comes up like three times per week at the top of change my view.

In case you want to see these discussions, this search shows multiple discussions of exactly this type over the last month:

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/search?q=sports&restri...

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Post by corobo »

mrguyorama wrote: post #583
corobo wrote: post #479

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> hard for me to envision what the next iteration on Reddit could be You mention it in your post. It's Discord. We're looping back to IRC. Give forums another 5 years or so

"Discourse" and "Discord" are two different products. One a slack like chat app for gaming, the other is a forum software produced by that guy from stack overflow

Aye, the parent mentioned both. I don't think discourse looks much like IRC but to confirm I did mean to type discord, the voice chatty one.

Forums (Discourse) are probably next up when we remember forums have great SEO benefits and discord none

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Post by [deleted] »

rswail wrote: post #454
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #392

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The examples @piokoch made are very good. Seats in planes were designed for average people. It means that myself, as an average person, have the right to be relatively comfortable in that chair. If an obese person sits next to me, I have nothing against them on a human level - but the fact that they use my space. They are not comfortable either (certainly physically and probably psychologically) so if we accept obese…

Regarding the plane seats, the solution is that airlines provide larger seats for all passengers. The problem of obese passengers encroaching on fellow passengers "space" is because airlines have consistently reduced that "space" over the last 2 decades or more. However, either obesity is a disability, in which case, perhaps the ADA or equivalent could be used to force airlines to provide accomodation, or it is not a…

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Post by Thorrez »

yibg wrote: post #567
concordDance wrote: post #353

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People can just go ctrl+c the response someone else made on the subject. Bookmark links and have your list of links publicly accessible.

And what do we do with a new variant that pops up? We've debunked dead people voting, now the claim is voting data is being sent to Germany for processing.

A low effort response like "Do you have firm evidence of this?"

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Post by stjohnswarts »

While I supported their right to have a forum, that place is/was a cesspool, but that's the price you pay for freedom of speech. Ultimately they failed (and will soon go down) and that's a good thing and it makes me feel better about the country. I suspect that in a year or two that Parler will also fail but the fact that they can exist still makes me proud to be in the USA where speech is speech as long as it doesn't incite violence or danger to individuals.

Re: Voat Is Shutting Down

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Post by yibg »

Thorrez wrote: post #596
yibg wrote: post #567

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And what do we do with a new variant that pops up? We've debunked dead people voting, now the claim is voting data is being sent to Germany for processing.

A low effort response like "Do you have firm evidence of this?"

I wish that was sufficient to counter disinformation.

Re: Voat Is Shutting Down

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Post by stjohnswarts »

forgotmypw5 wrote: post #396
px43 wrote: post #146

JFC that entire comment section is about blaming the Jews and using some pretty fucking horrific slurs to do it. Let that trash pile burn. Fuck those guys and anyone who would give pieces of shit like that a platform to spread their hatred into the world.

i don,t think your comment is any better.

I think is despising hate speech and the haters who deal in it is perfectly okay. His comment was fair, voat is a dumpster fire of ignorance and hate.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

technion wrote: post #8

Whilst the content on voat kept me from using it, I clicked this link and couldn't help noticing how quickly it loaded. How much content was on the screen. How many comments I could read before hitting "load more", which simply loaded more rather than sending me to a different page. For a site with funding issues and limited Devs, voats usability should be a huge embarassment to the Reddit it based itself on.

Use old.reddit.com. Usually loads pages in a second or two, so I'm not sure why that's so bad?
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