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Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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Since it's not mentioned until pretty far down the page I'll say that you likely know Rober as "the guy who glitter bombs package thieves on Youtube".

That first one the catapulted him into Youtube stardom turned out to be fake, right?

The device was not at all if that's what you meant. He got friends help to get the devices placed at different homes. Some of his "friends", however, staged thefts and didn't tell him. He pulled that footage within hours of the video going live.

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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I've enjoyed Mark Rober's content over the years, but I'm skeptical for two reasons:

1. I think people frequently underestimate how useful it is to do the "boring" parts of engineering (or any discipline). The unfortunate reality is that a lot of learning (that can be applied generally) comes from failure / mistakes, and you don't really get that if you're taught "this is how you can make this particular cool thing". In other words: I don't think you can learn how to do the stuff Rober does on YouTube by Rober telling you how he does the stuff on YouTube. He is capable of that precisely because he studied engineering in school and worked at NASA etc and experienced failures and setbacks which, though not obviously related to making a glitter bomb or w/e, taught him lessons and skills that are helpful under the surface. This is generally why I'm skeptical of anyone that thinks they can distill down their success in a given field into a single book or video series, when invariably their success is a result of 10+ years of experience, practice, and overcoming obstacles.

2. Creativity is near impossible to teach, which effectively just makes this a 30 day engineering course, in which case see point (1).

Hopefully my skepticism is misplaced though and this is a very worthwhile course for a lot of people!

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Since it's not mentioned until pretty far down the page I'll say that you likely know Rober as "the guy who glitter bombs package thieves on Youtube".

That first one the catapulted him into Youtube stardom turned out to be fake, right?

Not exactly. He had volunteers who placed the packages in front of their houses, and one of the volunteers had a friend or neighbor come by and take the package, faking the footage. It doesn't sound like Marc had anything to do with the incident and he has mentions the issue in the description of the video, though it's also a bit unclear why the volunteer would want to do this.

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Since it's not mentioned until pretty far down the page I'll say that you likely know Rober as "the guy who glitter bombs package thieves on Youtube".

That first one the catapulted him into Youtube stardom turned out to be fake, right?

After his latest video I was wondering if his recording of the thieves in their homes runs afoul of wiretapping laws. I can appreciate that someone who just stole a package probably isn't likely to try to press charges, but made me wonder if he is just assuming that risk.

Maybe the box has a 'shrinkwrap' license agreeing to be recorded?

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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Looks great, but I'm skeptical on the "bringing 3 of your own builds to life" at the end of 30 days, especially if you lack the tens of thousands of dollars of tools that Mark has.

You don't need 10s of thousands of dollars worth of tools to build something.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely lends credibility; versus the introduction from the other comment - that this is the guy that glitter bombs package thieves on youtube - which makes me take this less seriously.

I'd recommend watching those videos before knocking him for the glitter bombs. They are impressively engineered, with entertaining videos which contain a good deal of detail about how, why, and in the most recent version, how they are working with law enforcement to crack down on package thieves.

If you’re into this type of engineering check out “stuff made here” or “BPS Space”.

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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From the FAQ: > Throughout the class, you’ll share your ongoing work and give and receive peer feedback. Mark will also be able to check out students’ work, and may occasionally answer questions and give feedback. > We can’t guarantee that Mark will comment on your work directly, but we’ve designed the class so that you’ll get thorough feedback from your peers. You’ll get personalized feedback by submitting your proj…

$250 does not seem at all unreasonable even if the product consists only of high quality videos. I’ve spent $100 on good sets of videos before and was happy to do so.

I'd spend money on high quality videos (e.g. buying an egghead subscription was well worth the money a couple of years ago for me because there wasn't anything that came close to that resource at the time), but I doubt I'd really spend $250 on stuff that (at least from the subject titles + video descriptions) seems to be very general/somewhat intro level material. Then again, I don't think I'm the intended audience here :/

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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Rober just put out a new video with version 3.0 of his Glitter Bomb, and the engineering is seriously impressive. I’m sure he gets lots of help on his projects from others at this point, but I still have a lot of admiration for this guy.

The video is pretty funny, too!

https://youtu.be/h4T_LlK1VE4

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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I've enjoyed Mark Rober's content over the years, but I'm skeptical for two reasons: 1. I think people frequently underestimate how useful it is to do the "boring" parts of engineering (or any discipline). The unfortunate reality is that a lot of learning (that can be applied generally) comes from failure / mistakes, and you don't really get that if you're taught "this is how you can make this particular cool thing".…

> Creativity is near impossible to teach

After "Borrowing Brilliance: The Six Steps to Business Innovation by Building on the Ideas of Others" I'm not so sure about that.

The idea this book talks about - I think central, but not the only one - is that creativity at least closely related to combinations and transfer between fields.

Re: Mark Rober (former NASA) launches a 30 day Creative Engineering Class

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This is clearly marketing, and clearly good one.

From what I can tell, it's a course that was mostly produced by someone else and will be delivered by someone else, but they recorded Mark Rober - the guy famous on YouTube for glitterbombing people - as the instructor. But their FAQ already states that he will "be able to" look at what students are doing and "may occasionally [..] give feedback", so most likely he won't be around to run the course.

Also, from watching the videos, I had the impression that the technical work is mostly done by other people, e.g. the famous glitterbomb was built by Sean Hodgins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpMxOmUcfOI

So first and foremost, it appears that Mark Rober is a great showman and a great narrator. Plus he's collaborating with people like Mr Beast who have the power of a skilled agency behind them (nightmedia.co) to produce just the right narrative to go viral. And his first videos appear to be sponsored by a marketing agency.

So I'm not surprised that this course is hyped up and not actually done by Mark Rober. I'd treat this more as a case study on how to perfect your social marketing ;)

That said, their core promise of building 3 own projects within 30 days sounds reasonable if they have skilled instructors running the course. And the price seems reasonable for such a learning experience. When I was younger, my dad built some technical projects with me. Over the course of a weekend, I would learn more about electrics and physics than in a year in school. And once you built something that actually works in the real world, you'll never go back to observing technology as a passive bystander. That attitude change alone might be worth the $250.

Plus, I believe Mark Rober to be a great showman. This course will likely be entertaining to watch, and paced just like a good movie.

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