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Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that a huge hurdle to wanting a nicer webcam is recording at higher quality doesn’t matter. Zoom is limited to 1080p and even then you’ll rarely actually get it due to various limitations. Zoom for our (large) company limits streaming to around 640x320

You will very much see the difference between high quality and low quality optics/sensors, even at fairly low resolution.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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What does "proper resolution for MacOS" mean in this case? There are tons of 27" 4k that work fine in macOS in Retina mode and matches the medium tier iMac (their low end today is still 21.5" 1080p). Unless you declare everything below 5k subpar, I don't see where you're coming from.

This article from 2016 explains the problem: https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/ Basically, the ideal PPI of mac displays is a multiple of 110 PPI. So, for retina quality you need a display of roughly 220 PPI, which is what you get from 5K at 27 inch. A 27 inch 4K display is around 160 PPI. If you use that in 2x mode, things will appear too large. If you set it to scaled mode to make things appear the pr…

That seems pretty outdated information, given that the OOTH default Retina scaling in MacBooks have been non-2x fractional since 2016 (1400x900 for the 13-inch's 2560×1600, 1680×1050 for the 15-inch 2800x1800).

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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Sony recently added support for webcam-over-usb to a lot of their cameras, apparently. And they are known for video quality and good lenses. So that’s $700-800 for a very good camera (new) that also works as webcam. https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/app/webcam/en/download/

So close, but annoyingly my older ICLE-6000 didn't make the cut. Thanks for the information.

Yes, my 5100 (which is basically a more compact and software-limited 6000) also not included, but it seems to be a hardware limitation -- e.g. live view over USB is also ont supported on these cameras, and live view over wifi is rather crappy.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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The real reason is buried in the article: You can’t buy a good webcam because the number of people willing to pay a lot of money for a high end webcam is very small. At the lower end, people are satisfied with their built in laptop parts or a cheap webcam that sits on top of their monitor. At the high end, people go down the rabbit hole of buying a do-everything mirrorless camera that they can use for so much more th…

I'm just not sure I buy this... The number of people willing to pay significant money for a high end webcam was very small. Now my parents and their friends are talking about better lighting and camera angles. It seems like this industry is unusually ripe for a "better webcam" that "just works"

Yea, in 2019 this article made sense. If there is ever a year to launch a high end webcam, it was 2020. A ton of professionals with disposable income and very few ways to spend it, sitting in Webex and Zoom calls all day. People are dropping tons of cash for ring lights and Lume Cubes.

These are already serving the Youtuber market, the same way that podcasters enjoy Blue Yetis. Which makes me wonder, what cameras are Youtubers using?

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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The monitor has a fan? That would be a huge negative to me

Yes, I wonder too why is is necessary, especially because my PC is completely fan-less :-/ However, over the day is is barely audible and it only comes to my mind when I am sitting in front of the PC late at night (+ without headphones).

I think the fan is for the G-Sync module!

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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This doesn't make any sense. Mirrorless cameras cost a couple thousand dollars (I have one) and the last thing I am going to wear down/abuse this equipment with, is to jump into daily meeting lol. At the low end, there are decent webcams, like Logitech HD 1080p, but it costs over 100$ and honestly, it's a couple of years behind the current. There don't seem to be webcams of around 100 to 200$ that are state of the ar…

I actually did run my Fuji camera as a webcam for a Q&A at work. 35mm f/1.4 with a ring light left me looking downright pretty if I do say so myself. https://imgur.com/7CxnRLK

That's quite a difference, indeed.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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The real, real reason you can't buy good webcams is because the market isn't a meritocracy. Make the best webcam in existence and there just isn't a robust, or honest, review community to let it shine. Instead there are a billion "here's a list of things that we can get affiliate dollars for from Amazon, and we'll pretend we reviewed them" listings. This problem has hit a lot of markets. Without a financial support f…

> Make the best webcam in existence and there just isn't a robust, or honest, review community to let it shine. Instead there are a billion "here's a list of things that we can get affiliate dollars for from Amazon, and we'll pretend we reviewed them" listings.

Wirecutter?

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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You can turn your old phone into a webcam. An iPhone X has camera quality that competes with a cheap DSLR in a webcam situation. Main thing real cameras are better at is bokeh, but you won’t get that in a webcam. And software can passably fake it these days.

How?

“Droid”Cam does a good job of turning my iPhone Xs into a USB webcam for Ubuntu.
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