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Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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This title is misleading: > The Protecting Lawful Streaming Act would apply only to commercial, for-profit streaming piracy services. The law will not sweep in normal practices by online service providers, good faith business disputes, noncommercial activities, or in any way impact individuals who access pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works. Individuals who might use pirate s…

commercial is a simple as running ads

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

part of my job is to monitor tor and find people from using it, easier than you'd think.. so i wouldn't bankshot on that alone

what is your job?

It isn’t necessarily nefarious. Account signups, bill payments and any ‘commercial activity’ conducted from Tor exits receives additional scrutiny in the security and fraud teams of many companies. Known exits may also be blocked entirely.

Due to the nature of what Tor is and provides it’s unfortunately somewhat expected that bad behaviors happen significantly more from Tor exits than from users on an IP address from residential providers like Comcast.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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This should be fun for a service like Twitch. What happens when a streamer on their platform starts playing a game with a copywritten song playing on the game's radio or background? Many times the streamers themselves are not aware that this is a crime.

Someone spins up a Twitch clone in a more friendly jurisdiction.

Just like GDPR, doing business in a country subjects you to the laws of said country regardless of where you are incorporated. If this wasn’t the case, a lot of companies would only have to follow the laws of Panama or the Cayman Islands.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Is this just lip service to entertainment industry lobbying? I mean how will this be enforced? Most torrent sites are based overseas, people can just use VPN to torrent. Even if they ban the DNS record, you can get the IP address, from a reddit forum or something. If ISP's start to ban I.P.'s then the internet is truly broken at that point. Doesn't seem practical.

From the article:

> Under current law, only violations of the reproduction and distribution rights of copyright owners can be charged as felonies, while criminal infringement via streaming (or “publicly performing”) can only be charged as a misdemeanor. This is known as the streaming loophole – and it is particularly harmful to the U.S. economy because streaming has become the most common form of criminal copyright infringement.

This has nothing to do with torrents which would already be covered under the existing law. My understanding is that neither apply to non-commercial activities which instead fall under civil law.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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post #12

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part of my job is to monitor tor and find people from using it, easier than you'd think.. so i wouldn't bankshot on that alone

Can you please get a different job?

This sounds like shooting the messenger. If it’s practical to break TOR (even just in part rather than in whole), it still will be even if @moocowtruck does change employer — you just won’t have anyone alerting you that you’re insufficiently cautious.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

part of my job is to monitor tor and find people from using it, easier than you'd think.. so i wouldn't bankshot on that alone

I wouldn't think it'd be hard to find people using TOR, it's the stuff you're doing while you're on TOR that should be more difficult to track.

As long as it's not the NSA doing the tracking (they own a sufficient percentage of the nodes).

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

It may not be everyone, but there are a number of pirates who would buy a subscription to a legal streaming service if illegal streaming was not as easily available.

I think the inverse is more accurate. Services like spotify have very significantly reduced music piracy. If a reasonably priced legal alternative exists, people will tend to use it. Piracy only thrives at large scale when content is too difficult or expensive to access legally.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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post #8

"Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. economy $29.2 billion a year." Well, I'd say that it in fact saves $30 billion a year. People can use it to buy more important stuff - such as food.

It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

It's like when police say they got $1B of weed off the streets, but it would only equal that if you sold it as dime bags for $20. It totally ignores that getting the theoretical maximum profit out of a product is impossible.
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