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Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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post #16

For those of us not familiar with the US legal system. What are the implications?

Felons often cannot vote, cannot get jobs working with children, have difficulty finding housing, etc.

Most "good" jobs will turn people down (in most states) if they have a felony or even misdemeanors.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

It may not be everyone, but there are a number of pirates who would buy a subscription to a legal streaming service if illegal streaming was not as easily available.

There's probably more truth to it when turned around: there are a number of pirates who would buy content, if it would be easily accessible.

This is a self-inflicted wound by media companies, and they are attempting to solve the issue by sending people to prison, instead of taking the money people are ready to spend on their content.

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post #23
post #8

"Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. economy $29.2 billion a year." Well, I'd say that it in fact saves $30 billion a year. People can use it to buy more important stuff - such as food.

I suspect those figures are assuming three things... a) Wildly inflated estimates of views. b) That the viewer would have purchased the content if the pirated content were not available. c) All purchases in "b)" would be at the highest price the content was ever offered at.

I think you implied it with b) but availability of content is important as well. I've still got MP3s obtained via Napster and its ilk back in the day. The quality on many of them is below current standards, so I've been trying to upgrade to higher quality sources over the years. I'd say that I've got about a 20-25% success rate in being able to actually purchase that content legitimately. I could probably up that by 10-20% by going with overseas vendors, but I suspect most of those are bootlegged anyway.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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This should be fun for a service like Twitch. What happens when a streamer on their platform starts playing a game with a copywritten song playing on the game's radio or background? Many times the streamers themselves are not aware that this is a crime.

This law requires that the service as a whole be primarily designed for or marketed to the piracy market. So there’s no real grey area, we can be confident it won’t apply to Twitch.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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This should be fun for a service like Twitch. What happens when a streamer on their platform starts playing a game with a copywritten song playing on the game's radio or background? Many times the streamers themselves are not aware that this is a crime.

This is already a problem on Twitch. Cyberpunk 2077 claimed to have a "streamer mode" where no copywritten music was played, but they didn't actually ship the feature.

Correction: They shipped the feature at launch but it had a bug where some copyrighted material was missed.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

#68

This should be fun for a service like Twitch. What happens when a streamer on their platform starts playing a game with a copywritten song playing on the game's radio or background? Many times the streamers themselves are not aware that this is a crime.

Someone spins up a Twitch clone in a more friendly jurisdiction.

twit.ch?

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

#69

Good thing there is TOR.

part of my job is to monitor tor and find people from using it, easier than you'd think.. so i wouldn't bankshot on that alone

...and judging by your comment history, you work for USPS? The fuck does your job have to do with Tor?

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

It may not be everyone, but there are a number of pirates who would buy a subscription to a legal streaming service if illegal streaming was not as easily available.

Look at Spotify, iTunes, YouTube and Netflix. Laws don’t stop piracy, good legal options stop piracy. The reason people pirated music wasn’t because the piracy sites were great, it’s because music companies wanted to charge ridiculous prices for something they would broadcast on the radio for free.
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