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> The reason Google never hired an HBCU student straight out of undergrad into one of their key engineering roles is because they didn’t believe talent existed at these institutions- until I showed up.

I pity white working class American males: no classic class privilege and no modern victim privilege.

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I'm confused. Google had never hired from a HBCU and she increased it by 300%. Wouldn't that imply that it's still at 0?

THAT was your takeaway? That when she said she took it from 0 HCBU students to 300 students she also incorrectly said 300%?

Really, even in the comments of the thread the fact that so many people are hung up on that is absolutely baffling. Of all the awful stuff that is said in there, that's the comment they want to make?

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She writes "Google treats badly black, queer women", but the story is "Google treated ME badly, and I'm a black queer woman". Also, I'm not comfortable supporting or empathizing with anybody so certain about their "stellar, fantastic, greatest in history" profile.

It would be interesting to hear what were the performance/carrier paths of those 300 people she hired, to understand whether they really just needed a leg-up. That would validate her hunch about untapped potential. On the other hand I'm afraid that it's likely that if they were not promoted it would be again blamed on racism, because if you have that one differentiator, it can be used in any situation.

(Yes, I'm aware that this comment is not going to be palatable to politically correct majority).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

THAT was your takeaway? That when she said she took it from 0 HCBU students to 300 students she also incorrectly said 300%?

I had a similar takeaway. The overall poor wording - odd number(s), bad words and grandeur - support the impression that it's a rage post, rather than a (at least attempted) faithful, balanced, report of the fact.

Of course it's a rage post, she feels awful, she even says it herself that she is still coping. That doesn't mean that it's any less credible, if you discredit it for those reasons the issue will just remain and keep going.

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I'm confused. Google had never hired from a HBCU and she increased it by 300%. Wouldn't that imply that it's still at 0?

THAT was your takeaway? That when she said she took it from 0 HCBU students to 300 students she also incorrectly said 300%?

Yes. In her Twitter thread she implies that she was able to judge the HBCU curriculums to be equal to that of white universities while also not understanding the basics of percentages. Maybe I've got outrageous demands but I expect any making decisions on a CS curriculum to understand percentages.

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She writes "Google treats badly black, queer women", but the story is "Google treated ME badly, and I'm a black queer woman". Also, I'm not comfortable supporting or empathizing with anybody so certain about their "stellar, fantastic, greatest in history" profile. It would be interesting to hear what were the performance/carrier paths of those 300 people she hired, to understand whether they really just needed a leg-…

> but the story is "Google treated ME badly, and I'm a black queer woman"

My take-away from it was "Google recruiting is essentially unaware of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs)"

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I'm confused. Google had never hired from a HBCU and she increased it by 300%. Wouldn't that imply that it's still at 0?

THAT was your takeaway? That when she said she took it from 0 HCBU students to 300 students she also incorrectly said 300%?

The other takeaway is that she hired 300 students that usually don't meet the required skill levels.

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This sounds like someone I would not want anywhere near my business either. What a disgracefully unprofessional reaction. And what an awful person to have to try to work with.

Imagine you land a well-paid cushy job at one of the best employers in the world, with the explicit task of recruiting other members of your race to also enjoy that prestigious privilege to the exclusion of others (not to mention the social prestige you gain with that power), imagine being informed that you intimidate coworkers and blaming them, imagine being told that you're difficult to understand and becoming irate rather than considering improvement, imagine being put on performance improvement plans and having your generous pay reduced and managing to blame racism rather than even considering you may have some shortcomings, and imagine after they've put up with this behaviour for years before finally having enough, you go and unleash a highly damaging expletive-laden rant on social media. I can't.

I don't want to hear about 'white privilege' ever again.

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> The reason Google never hired an HBCU student straight out of undergrad into one of their key engineering roles is because they didn’t believe talent existed at these institutions- until I showed up. I pity white working class American males: no classic class privilege and no modern victim privilege.

Ironically, my understanding is they're also the most likely to vote against minimum wages, social security, universal health care, Pell Grants and so on, and to have bought into specious arguments about meritocracies.

Hat tip to this book[0] "issues of race point to underlying problems in society that ultimately affect everyone, not just minorities".

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Miners-Canary-Enlisting-Resisting-Tra...

Re: Why Google Fired Me

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She writes "Google treats badly black, queer women", but the story is "Google treated ME badly, and I'm a black queer woman". Also, I'm not comfortable supporting or empathizing with anybody so certain about their "stellar, fantastic, greatest in history" profile. It would be interesting to hear what were the performance/carrier paths of those 300 people she hired, to understand whether they really just needed a leg-…

> but the story is "Google treated ME badly, and I'm a black queer woman" My take-away from it was "Google recruiting is essentially unaware of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs)"

That is the most shocking part, but it's not the emphasis of the rant - it's the added value that gives the author credibility.

Please note that I'm coming from a 3rd world country, Google probably has my university well below it's radar, and I know people from there hired by Google (in double-digit numbers). So not being on the "A list" is quite normal for a vast majority of the world, yet you can make it happen.

On a personal note - I interviewed and got reject by Google, but I'm a white male so I do think they actually rejected me because of my performance and not because of my other attributes.

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