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Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#121
I feel like this is the future of virtual conferences. The demo is super slick, and I love the simplicity.

I worry that conferences adopting this would inaccessible, effectively be barring users who don't have the hardware to run it.

Still, super nice demo. I'd be excited to try this out for Christmas to get family on in a big room to chat.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#122

Went to the site with an iPad. Click create. It said it needed permissions. I said ok. It said something will be shown in the browser for me to confirm. Nothing happened. I could not try it.

iPad / Safari (and by extension, all apple mobile browsers) doesn’t support camera access from browser.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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post #33

It's a cool idea but after trying it, I feel it needlessly incorporates all the constraints of the real world into the virtual world. Why should I waste time clicking my mouse to move to a certain point in virtual space when no-one is really there anyways? Isn't the whole point of virtual meetings that you don't have to physically be there to attend? Walking around in the void to hear others only makes my personal ex…

I can see the appeal in being able to drift in and out of conversations. The private room dynamic is kinda rigid, I basically have to explicitly secede from one conversation to start another.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#125
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Ok I got to know: how much did you spend to get pop.com?

Yeah, I'm pretty curious because it must've cost in $10k-100k range right? Isn't this the type of vanity purchase that usually happens after you validate your idea with 10,000 customers and you got a round of investment to go big? I would expect a newly launched startup to use getpopapp.info, or used a made-up company name with an acquirable domain.

> Isn't this the type of vanity purchase that usually happens after you validate your idea with 10,000 customers and you got a round of investment to go big?

- The founder previously flipped his startup Screenhero to Slack and got some cash out of that I suppose.

- Interest is negative, that money is just costing money.

- Short dictionary domains are a pretty low-risk investment, I don't know the market well but I suppose they tend to increase in price over time.

- So if the company fails he can sell it. Meanwhile it's an asset on the company's books so it's part of the valuation etc.

Sounds like this is the "second startup" version of rich-ish parents buying an apartment near college for their kid to live in, hoping to flip it for more when they graduate. Doesn't seem all too "vanity" to me, it's just combining pragmatic usefulness with an "good enough" investment opportunity.

ps. wow this app works really well!

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#126
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I mean exactly what I said. Audio is unnecessary and means I have to stop everything else I'm doing. And so does anyone else in the same room unless I can find headphones. And 3 or 4 seconds is ample time to demonstrate that specific aspect that is hard to demonstrate with the written word.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across that way. I understand how you would like it, but personally I'm happy to play a video with sounds if it explains things quickly and clearly.

I didn't take it as a negative. I just wanted to clarify. I'm fierce on this topic as I can sense video becoming more pervasive and I think it's usually the wrong choice - as well as personally hating it most of the time.

I watch plenty of YouTube videos but that's when I'm in a different mode. For understanding stuff I want to skim read short clear text with illustrations. Animation and video can enhance that but it shouldn't replace it.

And I never, ever want spoken voiceovers.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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post #122

Went to the site with an iPad. Click create. It said it needed permissions. I said ok. It said something will be shown in the browser for me to confirm. Nothing happened. I could not try it.

iPad / Safari (and by extension, all apple mobile browsers) doesn’t support camera access from browser.

Seems to work fine over on https://meet.jit.si/ ?

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#129
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post #12

Cool! I think this kind of avatar embodiment is the future. I'm working on one that doesn't use the camera, but audio lip syncing to provide a good experience. https://jel.app Also if you want an OSS alternative to any of these commercial tools, check out https://hubs.mozilla.com

+1 for hubs, I only found it recently and was positively surprised when trying it out the first time. It is missing the webcam-video-on-avatar function though, or it is well hidden?!

I asked about that, but apparently it was too resource intensive: https://twitter.com/MozillaHubs/status/1247599808271077376

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#130
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Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or is this intentional and you're soft-launching or just doing some testing? edit: I clicked create a space and you immediately ask for access to my camera.. but there's no explanation of why you're asking for it, or what I'm getting out of it. I…

Your criticism is fair, except the camera access. It's a video chat tool, of course it's going to ask you to use your camera. What do you expect?

You know it's a video chat tool only because of the HN thread. How would you know if you randomly stumbled on to the landing page?
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