Never heard of it. A quick tour shows it to be full of quite unpleasant people. Good riddance.
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#42At the time of posting the front page of voat has the following threads: A moment of silence for all the FBI glowniggers that just got laid off. - https://voat.co/v/funny/4170215 If you go back to Reddit, you're a double niggerkike - https://voat.co/v/whatever/4170129 Plus a whole lot of misinformation and other crazy mixed in with comments that make youtube look like a bastion of intellectualism. It doesn't look lik…
Banning people from speaking doesn't change their mind. Every single tech site baffled.
Banning them stops them spreading this content on mainstream platforms and stops normal people falling in to the trap. It also makes the site tolerable.
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#43What a cesspool. There's so much racism, just in this post's comments... Good riddance!
Yeah, I was scrolling through some of the comments and saw things like "kikeflix" as an insulting variation of netflix, references to "hitler was right", etc.
First and last time I ever actually went to Voat. I'm not sure anything of value is being lost.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But yeah, for every polite person in some isolated corner there were 50 screaming about politics on the front page. The problem with Voat wasn't that some people were "talking politics" on the front page. The problem was that the vast majority where anti-semites, racists, and otherwise horrible. That's beyond "talking politics" in any decent sense of the phrase.
When the hardcore believers from /r/The_Donald moved to Voat, I was happy that it was still possible for anyone to read what they were saying. Similar to a honeypot or sting operation, we are probably worse off when they scatter back to the shadows.
All in all, these people think as hard as us that they are right, that they are the better people, that they have the better ideologies. I just can't fathom it. I'm convinced at this point that the only way to think about it is to understand that the IQ average of that group must be pretty low.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they would be kicked off whatever fund raising platform they use pretty quickly.
At which point wouldn't they switch to BTC? Agree or disagree with who Voat is and what they say, but I can only assume at least one coin exchange would be willing to do business with them.
In the comments (which I don't recommend reading, they're full of extreme racism), an apparently regular user says they tried getting donations before but it's never enough to last more than a few months.
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#46This is the fallacy of a "free speech" site. It gets taken over by extremists and soon you are just talking to each other in an echo chamber and agreeing with each other. And then you lose interest. That's why I never visit r/politics in Reddit anymore even though I am somewhat aligned with the political attitude of that sub.
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#47"It’s embarrassing but it’s true, I just can’t keep it up. I’ve tried meditation, I’ve tried prayer, I’ve tried reaching out for help. Some solutions worked for a little while but nothing has remedied the underlying issue. No matter what I do, I simply just can’t keep it up. I expect most will be disappointed and let down, while others will just point and laugh. So be it, it’s a problem every man like me will face at…
> The funny thing about free speech is it needs to be policed.
I can't agree with that — 'policed' and 'free' are really practically opposites. I wonder if a better formulation is "free speech needs to be parented": that is, subjected to social pressure by people who have the maturity to exercise their freedom with wisdom.
If I could figure out how to encourage communities to develop in ways that encourage parenting, rather than subjecting them to imposed policing, I'd have a potential product on my hands. I haven't got that figured out, though.
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#48Voat was founded as a neutral free-speech platform. After alt-right extremists were booted off reddit, they found a new home there. The site was bombarded by /pol/ chan culture, and after that nobody else of other political persuasions really wanted to join. Kind of like that "paradox of intolerance" meme. Free speech platforms usually end up becoming extremist platforms. I remember going on voat a couple years ago a…
That's sort of the question isn't it. Is it that there are so few of these neutral grounds that they collect the people unwelcome anywhere else, or that those ideas out-compete everything else unless there's a finger on the scale?
Personally I think it's a hybrid. Extremism and outrage are memetically advantaged in all circumstances but the specific atmosphere is what chooses the flavor prevalent in a particular community. Voat was formed by far-right elements and so that became the culture.
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#49Whilst the content on voat kept me from using it, I clicked this link and couldn't help noticing how quickly it loaded. How much content was on the screen. How many comments I could read before hitting "load more", which simply loaded more rather than sending me to a different page. For a site with funding issues and limited Devs, voats usability should be a huge embarassment to the Reddit it based itself on.
This is a pretty weird assertion - Voat doesn't have to worry about literally any of the scale problems Reddit does.
Reddit has usability problems by design. Reddit want to make it as obnoxious as possible to use on a mobile phone, so that you’ll download their stupid app. They also push you to login to view more content, so they can track you.
Reddit is just a cesspool, and it’s by design. Absolutely nothing to do with scaling problems.
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#50Voat was founded as a neutral free-speech platform. After alt-right extremists were booted off reddit, they found a new home there. The site was bombarded by /pol/ chan culture, and after that nobody else of other political persuasions really wanted to join. Kind of like that "paradox of intolerance" meme. Free speech platforms usually end up becoming extremist platforms. I remember going on voat a couple years ago a…
> Free speech platforms usually end up being extremist platforms.
...when the popular platforms stop being free speech platforms.
Reddit, in its earlier days, was never dominated by the Voat contingent. They were there, but they were far less extreme there than they were on Voat. And then whenever they would post rank inaccuracies, there were clearer-minded people to point out why they were wrong, in the same place where the same people could see it. Meanwhile in the 7% of cases when they actually had a legitimate point to make, they could make it, and the people who benefited from hearing it would actually hear it instead of continuing to be unawares and consequently continuing to be wrong about something.
But it doesn't work to have one popular platform which allows nearly everyone except for Those Deplorables and another that allows "everyone" but the only people with the incentive to move are the people being forcibly ejected from the popular one. Because witch hunts are bad, but if there is a place that owes its existence solely to a policy of not having witch hunts, it's going to be full of witches.
So the answer has to be to stop the witch hunts in the places where everybody else already is.