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Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Apple, will not make a car. They will make carOS, the UX that is built into other companies' cars.

Basically, they will build software, the steering wheel, the whole from dash, maybe even a backseat interface, and internal software (excluding hardware drivers), and standardize the UX across every automaker.

Kinda like what Android did for phones, but Apple will enforce stricter regulations for carOS.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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When they decide to implement a hardware control, it's usually done well. But their records is hit-and-miss in my opinion. Good: iPod click wheel, iPhone side buttons/switches, old chiclet keyboards, trackpad. Bad: Butterfly keyboards, AppleTV remote is awful (swipes and edge-clicks for all sorts of things), their mice have always been a pain to use (wanna right click? Better lift your left finger completely away fro…

A volume knob thats a blown up version of the wheel on the Apple Watch would be something.

Yes. That crown is really nice. Apple is good at tactile, when they want to be.

I just hope they agree that eyes-on-road interactions will require more of that, and less of the touchscreen-only stuff. They probably will. One way to look at it is how much they care about accessibility on iOS. If they put that much effort into those features there, then nailing those details in a car will be natural.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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The Tesla Model 3 already embodies the minimalism, software focus, and vertical integration that have driven Apple's success in the phone market. Right down to the custom SoC and capacitive touchscreen in lieu of buttons. I'm really curious what Apple's differentiators will be. Also, 2024 still seems aggressive to deploy self-driving for real.

If fully autonomous AI driving can be done, it will be the service on top that will drive difference. Like houses, what accommodations does it have. Sort of like air travels economy, business, first etc. The hp of the car won’t matter as much anymore.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

#275

Apple, will not make a car. They will make carOS, the UX that is built into other companies' cars. Basically, they will build software, the steering wheel, the whole from dash, maybe even a backseat interface, and internal software (excluding hardware drivers), and standardize the UX across every automaker. Kinda like what Android did for phones, but Apple will enforce stricter regulations for carOS.

You say this with such an air of authority, but obviously you are only guessing. Unless you can cite your convictions.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

#276

Apple, will not make a car. They will make carOS, the UX that is built into other companies' cars. Basically, they will build software, the steering wheel, the whole from dash, maybe even a backseat interface, and internal software (excluding hardware drivers), and standardize the UX across every automaker. Kinda like what Android did for phones, but Apple will enforce stricter regulations for carOS.

Do you think car makers will give up the space to Apple OS so easily? Android if anything is more conducive to using in a car setting, but I suspect that car makers would want to keep their OS/marketplace profits for themselves

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

#277
Would Apple be required to make their car parts interchangeable with the generic aftermarket brands and car service centers? IIRC there is a law specifically for car manufacturing.

I can imagine a dystopian future with custom non-standard parts, specialist repair centers, restrictions on what you can do with it, Apple being able to track everywhere we go, what we listen to, who is with us, and establishing a network of devices that work together but not with other brands. And that's just their phones, imagine their cars!

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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The looks of Tesla cars are conservative. Their cars look as much like gas-powered cars cars as early cars looked like carriages. I think there’s space for innovation there. The new Citroen Ami, for example, is a bolder design ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Ami_(electric) ), but I think one can do better.

Unfortunately, in the US your safety in the Citroen is questionable as you might get absolutely blasted by countless 4,300 lbs. / 1950 kg. SUVs[0] around you. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Highlander#/media/File:...

There are countless SUVs in Europe too. Maybe not as much as in the US, but already too many anyway.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Having recently sold my Tesla Model 3 I can say there is a lot to be desired with that car. The biggest lesson from Tesla is that cars are not cellphones. Having one display off to the side, without buttons, that does everything is an awful experience in a car. I hope that Apple learns that lesson. I think if they had gone first they might have made that mistake too, but now that it's been tried they can find interes…

>Having one display off to the side, without buttons, that does everything is an awful experience in a car. It also totally sounds like something Apple would do.

They did not make this choice with touch on Airpods Max, instead opting for the digital crown.
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