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Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by ldng »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #46
ldng wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care about them drifting away. I might even understand some point they made about GNOME. What I don't appreciate it's some people in Ubuntu world (that would be community and canonical) blaming GNOME Upstream for the drift. They want to lead their own platform somewhere else, fine, just do it. Don't pretend that you've been pushed to. The Gnome Zeitgeist project originated from the Ubuntu community and at fir…

What? Gnome 2.3 has been shedding features for sometime. Ability to change GDM theme? Gone. Ability to configure gnome screensavers? Gone. That's not even mentioning 3.0, but I understand that it's like KDE, in that 3.1 will be much better suited for full time use. You miss the point on the controls. Unity WAS made for netbooks and tablets. It conserves UI space in a more concise manner (not to mention that I enjoy t…

You're right about gdm, still I didn't noticed it until you told me. I think most people just change the wallpaper and at most apply a different control theme.

Well I don't really get you point on the controls and screen estate then. To me "bulkier" controls precisely ease their use on netbooks and tablets.

Well the search is a great feature if it is fuzzy and intelligent enough to match on related keyword. Now, for now, it doesn't quite work that way. Regular people don't dare searching because they might not even know what to search. So to me gnome-shell as a better compromise it does not force search on you. With Unity, if you don't want to search, you need extra clicks to get to the actual application list.

There are currently 9 Gtk+3 themes on gnome-look.org that's hardly enough to leverage the possibilities of the theming engine. Better theme will come and will harness the power of the new the engine.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by kklimonda »

azakai wrote: post #37
pdelgallego wrote: post #5

I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. You can always replace them with more advances packages through apt-get.

> I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. I fully agree, but am not sure this is an example of that. The article says LightDM uses WebKit. Loading an entire html rendering engine for a login manager seems like overkill. I guess this explains why LightDM is smaller than GDM in code size - but is it smaller in total size when including a…

afair, WebKit is just one of backends that LightDM can use so it shouldn't really be a problem.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by ZoFreX »

azakai wrote: post #37
pdelgallego wrote: post #5

I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. You can always replace them with more advances packages through apt-get.

> I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. I fully agree, but am not sure this is an example of that. The article says LightDM uses WebKit. Loading an entire html rendering engine for a login manager seems like overkill. I guess this explains why LightDM is smaller than GDM in code size - but is it smaller in total size when including a…

Firefox and Chrome are going to be on more equal footing in Ubuntu now, so webkit is more likely to be needed. Also, how large is webkit compared to Gnome? Maybe they want to get the login on-screen faster?

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by azakai »

ZoFreX wrote: post #54
azakai wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. I fully agree, but am not sure this is an example of that. The article says LightDM uses WebKit. Loading an entire html rendering engine for a login manager seems like overkill. I guess this explains why LightDM is smaller than GDM in code size - but is it smaller in total size when including a…

Firefox and Chrome are going to be on more equal footing in Ubuntu now, so webkit is more likely to be needed. Also, how large is webkit compared to Gnome? Maybe they want to get the login on-screen faster?

> Firefox and Chrome are going to be on more equal footing in Ubuntu now, so webkit is more likely to be needed.

Chrome bundles a completely separate copy of WebKit. There would be no savings here, it would be exactly as if Chrome wasn't there for this matter.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by azakai »

kklimonda wrote: post #53
azakai wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think this is the path that Ubuntu should follow, replace current pieces of software with lighter and smaller solutions. I fully agree, but am not sure this is an example of that. The article says LightDM uses WebKit. Loading an entire html rendering engine for a login manager seems like overkill. I guess this explains why LightDM is smaller than GDM in code size - but is it smaller in total size when including a…

afair, WebKit is just one of backends that LightDM can use so it shouldn't really be a problem.

Interesting, thanks, if WebKit isn't used then I see no problem here.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM

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Post by ZoFreX »

azakai wrote: post #55
ZoFreX wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox and Chrome are going to be on more equal footing in Ubuntu now, so webkit is more likely to be needed. Also, how large is webkit compared to Gnome? Maybe they want to get the login on-screen faster?

> Firefox and Chrome are going to be on more equal footing in Ubuntu now, so webkit is more likely to be needed. Chrome bundles a completely separate copy of WebKit. There would be no savings here, it would be exactly as if Chrome wasn't there for this matter.

My bad! Thanks for the correction :)
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