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Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Electric vehicles are _incredibly_ simple to begin with so a decent chance. But I also think that the electric car space is already very simple. Apple would be going head-to-head with Tesla which has already stripped away almost everything into a large dash-mounted monitor.

The looks of Tesla cars are conservative. Their cars look as much like gas-powered cars cars as early cars looked like carriages. I think there’s space for innovation there. The new Citroen Ami, for example, is a bolder design ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Ami_(electric) ), but I think one can do better.

That's a lovely looking design. I am on-board with that.

I was talking about the interior but I would agree that there is room to improve, especially as start thinking about what driverless cars will look like.

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>Apple is just about the only company with a similar ethos and enough money and patience to be a viable competitor and have a competitive brand known for quality. Mostly agree, though I suspect a few of the major car companies like Volkswagon/Audi and Toyota/Lexus are capable of this as well. But yes, Apple has the cash reserves to not just manufacture electric cars, but to build out the necessary infrastructure netw…

Tesla and Apple have figured out that could is a better stock multiplier than does .

Isn't that how the entire stock market works? Valuations based on net present value of future projected earnings. You just need a story about future earnings that enough of the market will buy into. Both Apple and Tesla have enough track record to credibly tell such a story.

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And I view the voice command thing as a thing to be avoided in most or all cases. I simply don’t want to talk to electronics. The privacy implications alone scare me away. No thanks.

> I simply don’t want to talk to electronics. The privacy implications alone scare me away. No thanks. I think you should consider the tradeoffs here. Practical safety on the road today, where I don't die because I'm fiddling with buttons, trumps theoretical unmeasurable fearmongering about vague privacy concerns. The reality is that if Tesla were to record every command I ever give the car and post them online again…

Practical safety is a car that slows down when I'm moving too fast toward an obstacle because I am distracted.

Talking to electronics does not increase practical safety.

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I hope not. The Standard Oil-ification of Apple just seems like it'll lead to another weird all-encompassing behemoth that'll have to be hacked to pieces at some point.

edit: Standard Oil was the company I was thinking about but the structure of it will be more like General Electric

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Somewhat ironically, the physical controls for the turns signals are by far the worst part of the whole Tesla UI. I've had my Model 3 for over two years now, and I still cannot reliably cancel a turn signal, or "soft push" the signal so it only blinks 3 times. It's infuriating to inadvertently signal left, then right, then left again, as you frantically try to just cancel the turn signal. I'm broadcasting confusion a…

I give the "worst" award to the wiper controls, but I do dislike the mushy feel of the control stalks and the way turn signal cancellation works. Last time I drove a BMW I recall it working similarly though, so maybe it's just the style now?

Perhaps it is just a defect in my hardware, but on mine it is nearly impossible to reliably "soft" press in either direction. Every motion either registers as nothing or hard press.

Re: Apple targets car production by 2024, eyes ‘next level’ battery tech: sources

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Self-driving car electric car. Being successful at building another electric car would be certainly interesting. Being successful at building a self-driving car would be one of the biggest achievement of the century.

A self driving flying consumer vehicle that is fueled by any organic material (100% clean) would be the "biggest achievement of the century".

Road/highway infrastructure would be a thing of the past. Billions (if not trillions) of dollars saved in new road construction and maintenance. Can divert federal/state/local funds to education, public health, and social programs.

Then highways can be replaced by housing infrastructure and thus slowly driving down the cost of housing in markets across the country.

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