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Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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> videos do get taken down for infringing. After a Lot of suffering. I believe there was an incident recently in which Pornhub refused to take down videos of a minor in what was an obvious situation of revenge porn.

I mean in the case of infringing on copyright. It's near instant. As far as revenge porn I don't think they gave it much thought.

Yeah, well that means they got their priorities reversed badly, for this kind of business.

I think the current model should have been the default from the start - if verified, paid content creators were the only ones allowed, they would get a much bigger share from their videos.

Thank fuck Ryan Creamer was verified.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Youtube in the mid-to-early 2000s was famous for being the place to get anything. Times have changed.

Before 2005 youtube wasn't.

Was that because of policy? I thought it just wasn't popular enough then.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Ive personally taken dozens of reports where people were 100% sure and disgusted, even from some moderators who were supposed to know more about this - and it turned out the people were all over 18. anecdotal indeed.

I'm sure we can find stories on both sides of this argument. I lived in South East Asia for a while and the cell phone footage of sexual interactions between middle school students is what I reported. These are girls wearing middle school uniforms embroidered with the school's name on the shirt [1] which indicates that the woman is under 18. Nobody would bother to replicate the uniform for 2 minutes of shaky cell pho…

I feel for you situation, and I'm sorry you and those around you have had such issues.

Indeed your mention of the uniform, along with it being shaky cell phone imagery, would cause me to moderate such an upload if it was brought to my attention - I would stop it from public availability and notify the uploader that they could respond with proof of age and rights if they'd like to prove the claim wrong. (99% of the time that does not happen)

Sadly, I can't say that you are 100% right on the uniform thing - especially in certain places, copying such uniforms or acquiring exact copies and using such for videos is kind of common.

Fake-revenge porn is actually a thing, and has been for a long time. There are some slick web sites out there that try to make it look like it's 'stolen / hidden video' of girls next door - but it's actually now budget / average girls selling vids cheap and it's packaged in a way to make it seem real.

With that being said, there are also some 'parasite sites' that take imagery of people out of context and use it for sexualized viewing without the person's consent - and I abhor that.

There are also people who do revenge porn, and blackmail porn I would say it's likely even more prevalent. That kind of thing really ticks me off too.

I don't know a lot about xhams, but I'm pretty sure they play with different jurisdictions and rules that pornhub and some others - so I'm not going to comment on the way they do things.

I will mention that I do get quite a few 'takedown requests' from cam models, so many do not understand how affiliate promos work, partner promotion agreements, APIs and such.. sometimes they also push dmca complaints to google and others in an attempt to rush a pic removal... I have also seen some people working with these models who get 'creative' in their removal requests, putting in emails to me (and likely to our hosting companies, google, etc) - that "not only are these pics not authorized for use, but they we're under 17 when they were made" -

As to where I am sure this works to speed up the deletion process for some, it's a shitty thing to do for many reasons - but it is done a fair amount. With so many of these fake take down notices, it's not easy for a moderating team to sort out what is legit and what is not.

It's obvious to me that sometimes this is done by a new boyfriend / husband who is trying to remove past history of their lover's porn work.

It also clogs up our system of support emails. So there is much more to these issues than most people who would file a legit request would know.

It's not always easy to determine these things.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Surely you must mean the targeted advertisements and data collection necessary for that. I don't see anything inherently wrong with an advertisement in and of itself, and it certainly isn't morally questionable. Companies need consumers to be aware of their products in order to sell them. > if someone told me they worked for google or some other advertising network, I would silently be judging them for their life cho…

I strongly agree with Banksy's view on advertisement: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They ha…

You don't see any hint of irony in that statement from someone who leaves artwork in public spaces without asking the general public for permission first? The same artist who destroys his own art, which he left in public, when someone tries to "own" it?

Claiming that everyone who works at Google works on Ads is like saying everyone who works at Amazon moves boxes in a warehouse.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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> This means lots of casual exhibitionists will be reluctant to upload. You're saying it like it's a bad thing. Phub already has a process where content creators can ask their content to be verified directly. No platform should have porn on it without being able to source the origin of that content, period. (US) Studios have to retain a list of performers legally, I don't see why these free pornsites shouldn't. Count…

> Countless lives have been destroyed because of revenge porn uploaded on these websites. I suspect you're getting a lot of downvotes for this. I don't know how one's life could get destroyed just by uploading a sex tape to a porn website. It's more the sending it to friends and aquaintances that causes hurt (and for the vast vast majority this would hardly "destroy their lives", very few people are that fragile), wh…

> I don't know how one's life could get destroyed just by uploading a sex tape to a porn website

You people have zero empathy provided you get your porn.

You don't think that a victim of revenge porn feels like being raped everytime a stranger jerks off on her intimate image/video uploaded without her consent and it doesn't take a toll on her psyche thus destroying her life? Then shame on you.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Sorry I'm not following. There was no arrest.

No arrest, no charges, so no crime then?

Bizarre response.

It wasn't the police they were reported to it was the site admins of XHamster.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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I strongly agree with Banksy's view on advertisement: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They ha…

You don't see any hint of irony in that statement from someone who leaves artwork in public spaces without asking the general public for permission first? The same artist who destroys his own art, which he left in public, when someone tries to "own" it? Claiming that everyone who works at Google works on Ads is like saying everyone who works at Amazon moves boxes in a warehouse.

I’m not making a value judgement on Banksy, just that I agree with that particular statement of his.

Re: second paragraph, I didn’t claim that everyone at google works on ads, you made that up. You don’t have to work on an immoral thing just an immoral employer for me to question your morals.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Because anyone interested enough in this topic to do any cursory research -- as opposed to just being an insufferable fedora on the internet -- will realize it's not limited to just one company.

Neither is it in construction. Now do you have any numbers to justify that it's, for example, more common than in construction work?

It's very easy and very free to oppose human trafficking in porn by not visiting the websites. Not to mention the personal gains from squashing the habit of seeing human bodies as objects to use for one's personal pleasure. It's significantly harder to oppose human trafficking in construction, what am I gonna do, not enter buildings? Comparing numbers is irrelevant.
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