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Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

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#101

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America didn't stop giving aid to Israel despite 53 years of military occupation and apartheid. You think this is going to be the thing that changes the status quo on Israel?

Sponsoring international terrorism used to be a real faux pas in the U.S. I guess those days are over.

US was fine with saudi involvement in 9/11. No one batted and eyelid then.. not sure what time you're referring to.

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#102

America should stop giving aid to Israel as long as Israeli companies are going to assist in getting journalists arrested/murdered/dismembered.

But it’s perfectly ok for European or American companies to do the same.

Bull of France in Libya. Bluecoat in Syria. Siemens in iraq and Iran. Nokia in Bahrain. Cisco in China. ... The list is literally endless. Yet only Israeli companies are culpable in your mind and to such an extent that the entire state must be sanctioned. No less.

Your hypocrisy is leaking.

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#103

America should stop giving aid to Israel as long as Israeli companies are going to assist in getting journalists arrested/murdered/dismembered.

Nations have no friends, only interests, the same could be said with most corporates.

At the risk of sounding pessimistic, there's no value in changing anything if the current course of action aligns with the long term interest of US policymakers and their stakeholders.

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#104
How come when we hear about this stuff it is always Israeli companies involved? Is ethics not taught in Israeli Computer Science curricula? Those who wrote this exploit are clearly "brilliant" and at least some of them are bound to be reading Hacker News. Is other countries' spyware firms just better at hiding their malware than Israel's is?

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely the malware is using SSL so packet sniffing from an external device isn't gonna work. And it's apple, so at best you might find a firewall among their tightly locked down app store. Don't worry, apple knows what's good for you far better than you ever could ::eye roll::

A lot of the teams inside Apple who create first-party apps like iMessage are understaffed compared to their competitors. They should really hire more security folks. A lot of Apple's product security work seems to be outsourced to Google Project Zero.

Maybe apple doesn't have the funds to hire more people..

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#106

How come when we hear about this stuff it is always Israeli companies involved? Is ethics not taught in Israeli Computer Science curricula? Those who wrote this exploit are clearly "brilliant" and at least some of them are bound to be reading Hacker News. Is other countries' spyware firms just better at hiding their malware than Israel's is?

It’s called selection bias. It’s fun and always acceptable to hate on Israel. It’s also more memorable due to the sensationalization of it.

A few years ago bluecoat systems was caught providing deep packet inspection gear to the Syrian government. But that wasn’t Israel so no biggie and you either never heard about it or didn’t pay much attention because it wasn’t Israel.

American and European companies do this all the time but it’s not sensationalized to the same degree. That’s just business as usual.

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#107

It was awesome when Facebook deleted NSO group employees personal profiles. And then they whined about it. The silver lining of Facebook owning WhatsApp. I hope more organizations do this. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/faceb...

They didn't just whine, they sued Facebook in Israeli court (and won). Facebook was forced to reinstate their accounts: https://www.cyberscoop.com/facebook-nso-group-accounts-reins...

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#108

How come when we hear about this stuff it is always Israeli companies involved? Is ethics not taught in Israeli Computer Science curricula? Those who wrote this exploit are clearly "brilliant" and at least some of them are bound to be reading Hacker News. Is other countries' spyware firms just better at hiding their malware than Israel's is?

It’s called selection bias. It’s fun and always acceptable to hate on Israel. It’s also more memorable due to the sensationalization of it. A few years ago bluecoat systems was caught providing deep packet inspection gear to the Syrian government. But that wasn’t Israel so no biggie and you either never heard about it or didn’t pay much attention because it wasn’t Israel. American and European companies do this all t…

yes, because the NSA never gets criticized for ethics violations...

Re: Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage ‘Zero-Click’ Exploit

#109

America should stop giving aid to Israel as long as Israeli companies are going to assist in getting journalists arrested/murdered/dismembered.

But it’s perfectly ok for European or American companies to do the same. Bull of France in Libya. Bluecoat in Syria. Siemens in iraq and Iran. Nokia in Bahrain. Cisco in China. ... The list is literally endless. Yet only Israeli companies are culpable in your mind and to such an extent that the entire state must be sanctioned. No less. Your hypocrisy is leaking.

It’s more likely someone is unaware of your examples, because it requires a level of knowledge in corporate geopolitical actors that most people wouldn’t come across via normal news streams.

Be polite.

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