Does anybody know the conclusion? Was the part about a joke letter because of a bet real or not?
The Strange Case of Dr. Ho Man Kwok (2019)
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#102This article is trying to equate a medical controversy with racism. There exists a medical controversy over the effects of MSG. There exists racism, both in general and in particular against Asians in the United States. There also exists a very profitable industry that relies on flavour enhancers, and MSG is one of the most potent yet least expensive flavour enhancers available. I'll tell you that I've inadvertently…
That’s not true.
>> most potent yet least expensive flavour enhancers available
Salt is approx 1/4 the price, as is sugar.
>> I've inadvertently done the double-blind "Is MSG harmful" test too many times
Cheese, tomatoes, it would be hard to avoid it. What kind of restrictions do you need to follow?
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#103This article is very long and having skimmed it I'm still not entirely sure: is monosodium glutamate unhealthy or not after all?
It's a pretty frustrating article. There is a specific section titled "The truth about MSG" .... which ... doesn't tell you the truth about MSG. Instead, the "truth about MSG" is buried half way through the next voluminous section titled "A cautionary tale". Which appears to be ... no evidence has conclusively shown its harmful in the quantities used in food, and in fact, randomized blinded studies found no effect at…
> randomized blinded studies found no effect at all.
And other randomized blinded studies have found an effect. Hence, the controversy. Not to mention that the American food industry is very dependent upon the availability of an inexpensive, effective flavour enhancer.Re: The Strange Case of Dr. Ho Man Kwok (2019)
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Invoking racism and gender discrimination when it’s not the reason, causes more racism and it gives more than ample opportunity to actual racists within us to exploit it for their own nefarious needs.
There’s a long history of racism against Chinese immigrants in America. Among the only jobs they were allowed to have was having restaurants. Of course this led to rumours of Chinese restaurant being dirty and their MSG causing sickness. It’s a very long history and it’s well documented. While you’re at it, read on the Chinese exclusion act. And now you’re saying that people who call this racism for what is is are th…
If that's the most recent example, I'd call it an "ancient history of racism", not a "long history of racism".
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Invoking racism and gender discrimination when it’s not the reason, causes more racism and it gives more than ample opportunity to actual racists within us to exploit it for their own nefarious needs.
I've heard this repeated so many times but I don't actually understand what that means - can you elaborate? Mentioning racism causes more racism? Doesn't that make sense? Sort of sounds like the same thing as "the more you test for COVID the more cases there will be" I've read your sentence like 10 times and it makes no sense to me. How would one exploit someone calling out (false by your definition) racism to cause…
Will this cause more racism? Inadvertently, yes. Racism occurs due to bigotry and ignorance, one which needs to be systematically exposed and the other requiring remedial education (what you think you know is not right). If the problem requires intellectual engagement and discussion, and the intellectual battlefield is a Vietnam helicopter drop off where your average time of survival is 7 minutes before you die, lots of people will be dodging that draft.
So the war never gets fought.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. Invoking racism and gender discrimination when it’s not the reason, causes more racism and it gives more than ample opportunity to actual racists within us to exploit it for their own nefarious needs.
I've heard this repeated so many times but I don't actually understand what that means - can you elaborate? Mentioning racism causes more racism? Doesn't that make sense? Sort of sounds like the same thing as "the more you test for COVID the more cases there will be" I've read your sentence like 10 times and it makes no sense to me. How would one exploit someone calling out (false by your definition) racism to cause…
Hence people don't take it seriously... Racism fatigue.
Kinda like quarantine fatigue when particular mitigations don't make scientific sense.
Edit: take my own advice and change "you" to "one."
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish people stopped invoking racism everywhere, when plain "being misinformed" explains things just fine. Millions of Koreans swear up and down that MSG is bad for health. Are we also being racist? (Against whom?)
Koreans are generally racist against Chinese, especially Mainland Chinese.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
So stop calling MSG sensitivity "chinese restaurant syndrome". Do you suppose that hysteria does not exist because it is a sexist term?
Hysteria is no longer a valid mental diagnosis according to the APA, so yes.
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#110Dave Chang has a small scene in one of his Ugly Delicious (great show, by the way) episodes where he gets a group of non-Asian Americans, who claim to be MSG-allergic, to come and share their stories of MSG-related symptoms after eating at Chinese restaurants. He then hands out Doritos and American products that the participants claim they love and can eat all day. Hard to see where this is going... he says, all thes…