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How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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The 11" Macbook Air solved the laptop form factor. Thin, light, very portable, USB ports on each side , headphone jack and an external monitor port (in this case, thunderbolt). Could there be some refinements to my 2015 MBA ? Certainly - the two type-A USB ports could remain type A but be upgraded to USB3 ... you could add a USB-C port on each side in place of the magsafe and lightning ports and gain the ability to c…

>(in this case, lightning)

I suppose you mean Thunderbolt

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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The 11" Macbook Air solved the laptop form factor. Thin, light, very portable, USB ports on each side , headphone jack and an external monitor port (in this case, thunderbolt). Could there be some refinements to my 2015 MBA ? Certainly - the two type-A USB ports could remain type A but be upgraded to USB3 ... you could add a USB-C port on each side in place of the magsafe and lightning ports and gain the ability to c…

> We need to actually coin a word to describe "company solved their use-case wonderfully and can't resist fiddling around with it for reasons that don't align with their user-base*.

Can't help coin a new word, but Ralph Caplan described this phenomenon really well. I'm a (software) designer, and I think about this all the time:

> When cuffs disappeared from men’s trousers, fashion designers gave interviews explaining that the cuff was archaic and ill-suited to contemporary living. It collected dust, contributed nothing. When the trouser cuff returned, did it collect less dust and begin at last to make a contribution? Probably no fashion designer would argue the point; but the question never came up. Designers got rid of the cuff because there aren’t many options for making trousers different. They restored it for the same reason.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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post #9

The 11" Macbook Air solved the laptop form factor. Thin, light, very portable, USB ports on each side , headphone jack and an external monitor port (in this case, thunderbolt). Could there be some refinements to my 2015 MBA ? Certainly - the two type-A USB ports could remain type A but be upgraded to USB3 ... you could add a USB-C port on each side in place of the magsafe and lightning ports and gain the ability to c…

That word is: lack of market research.

I recently finished up shopping for a Windows laptop. It took awhile, as I balanced price with features. You'd be shock how many otherwise decently config'ed offerings lacked a key and basic feature (e.g., backlit KB), or was deficient in some key way (e.g., mid-priced models with only 8 GB RAM soldered, no ability to upgrade).

I agree. Some might not need backlit or more than 8 GB but if they do that machine - to them - becomes useless. Lack of sufficient RAM will cuts years off the usefulness of a laptop.

I'm not sure how such small thinking helps the brand, loyality, etc. Do these companies not understand?

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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I’m a software engineer doing mostly iOS work these days. I recently purchased a 2015 MacBook Pro for $750 on eBay. It’s fine . I’m in Xcode, the browser, or a terminal most of the day. I’m sure a newer computer would seem faster, but I couldn’t imagine spending 3x for a newer version of this thing that’s working just fine for my needs. Some people reading this probably have processor-intensive tasks they routinely p…

> There’s a limit to this, but it’s further back than you might think. I also have a 2012 quad-core Mac Mini that’s still in regular use. It’s also fine!

No recent version on Xcode would work on this one, though.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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As someone coming from the other direction of this "hack", I agree with the author's point to match needs to hardware. Since being introduced to Linux in high school in the early 2000s, I have had a penchant for bringing old computers back from the dead. As a result, every laptop I have ever owned has been one that a friend or partner throws away when Windows gets slow. Every 3-5 year old laptop I have found can be b…

Totally applaud the effort of bringing old laptops to life and I would do it too but what am I to so with so many laptops? I do let mine rest in peace if they’re too behind and as a rule I try to not accumulate too much hardware as where i live space is expensive. If i had plenty of space I’d probably build more dedicated machines, perhaps airgapped to avoid distractions.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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There are only so many 2006-2012 vintage Thinkpads in existence, as he mentions in the last section. This certainly relevant to his "this is a hack" point, however, one should note that prices for these items used has been going up lately, a very unusual trend for used PCs. I hope manufacturers notice this latent value in the PC market.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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The X60 ThinkPads TFA settles on are the pinnacle of the X-series ThinkPad form factor.

That's not just any old laptop, and if my situation is any indication, the author wouldn't hesitate one moment if offered a brand new X60 specimen with a stronger less crack-prone chassis material and modern SoC+LED-lit LCD. Unfortunately no such thing is currently available.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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post #9

The 11" Macbook Air solved the laptop form factor. Thin, light, very portable, USB ports on each side , headphone jack and an external monitor port (in this case, thunderbolt). Could there be some refinements to my 2015 MBA ? Certainly - the two type-A USB ports could remain type A but be upgraded to USB3 ... you could add a USB-C port on each side in place of the magsafe and lightning ports and gain the ability to c…

>(in this case, lightning) I suppose you mean Thunderbolt

Fixed. Thanks.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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I also stopped buying new laptops. The full biological cost is hard to fully imagine, just incredible in size. If you think about it, hundreds and thousands of plant, bacterial, animal, mammal, bird, and other lives are laid down for each of these amazing powerful artefacts. If there are previously used alternatives available, I cannot in good conscience vote for the creation of another one. So I started with a couple of refurbs, then I started just getting hand-me-downs. People are constantly getting rid of old laptops, tablets, phones, keyboards, etc.

As a coder, working on something older also gives me perspective on performance of anything I'm working on.

Re: How and why I stopped buying new laptops

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I'm so glad that my job allows me the freedom to just do my job in a quiet office with a desktop computer instead of making me optimize for working in meetings and on the move.

I can't imagine spending $2k+ every 4-5 years to get a new machine. For less than $1k I get machines that have more powerful tech, that I can hide away under my desk, which last longer than any laptop.

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