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Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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Cloud vs. datacenter is entirely about administration, rather than hardware.

I would say it's more about elasticity and the ability to scale horizontally if you take the minimum amount of precautions when designing your app.

This is what an engineer would say and that's important but, behind the scenes it's all about operating costs (e.g. administration). I worked with Cisco on a contract, they had about 22 folks managing the day to day operation for a specific on premise integration. Imagine if Cisco didn't have to pay 22 folks to manage the day to day? Let's say we cut that need in half but the licensing price remained the same or you could repurpose good engineers to deliver value elsewhere?

All of the elastic and horizontal stuff is great, but that's covered under SLA.

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You could rent a couple of 1USD/month VPS, or if really on a budget rent a bunch of containers with ipv6 for just a few cents

One issue I have with going the VPS route is that what I'm charged is often not what I'm expecting. I will use estimation calculators and figure my bill will be $25/month (which I get for a couple months) and then suddenly get a $120 bill. This has happened more than once and has had me loose all confidence in these services for hobby projects. I'd rather just buy a Pi cluster at this point.

Sounds like AWS or one of the big guys. The smaller providers usually have an all in price for a VPS with a fixed amount of rosources, no surprises. Lightsail is similar but kind of sucks.

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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That is a damn good looking 3d print wow. My only beef with RPIs as servers is disk I/O is terrible. If that's been solved, I'd love to know! If the SOC has PCI-E lanes that were accessable externally I feel like the server side would really take off

Yes, with the compute module. https://pipci.jeffgeerling.com/

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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Running a 6 node cluster of Pi4s at home now. Did some benchmarks. Long story short. USB thumb drive boot disks are better performance and cheaper than SD cards. Fans are completely unnecessary on a Pi4 with an aluminum heat shield style "case". They do run hotter than with a fan, but they will not be heat throttled with recent firmware.

USB isn't very good for high vibration environments (e.g. inside robots) though :-/ Worst abomination of a connector design I've seen in a couple decades. I wish they had locking industrial connectors on the USB ports on the Pi ... although a SATA/m.2 would be nicer.

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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Which USB thumb drives and which SD cards? Do you overclock? If you ran at 99-100% CPU on average, would you still not need fans?

any usb 3.0 drive works, but I am using SanDisk Ultra Fits. price per byte is less and performance is similar or slightly better for reads and way better for sustained writes. No Overclock. 99-100% CPU on all 4 cores for hours and no throttling. they do run at 75-78C instead of 65C, but I could not get them to throttle. Even with the cheapo 3 piece heat sinks there was almost no throttling, but they did throttle occa…

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Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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All fourteen Pis, even v4s (which are significantly hungrier), would be lower power (as in electrical draw) than even a feeble (as in compute power) traditional machine. If you can distribute your workload (or it's not intensive anyway), i.e. having no single machine with a faster processor, then I think it's a good choice, cheaper to run. Edit: I'm happy to be corrected if down-voters would like to reply... A Pi 4 d…

Did not downvote but desktops idle way below 100w.

Exactly. Take a look at the "ENERGY STAR ® Power and Performance Data Sheet" for Dell "office" desktops. Many are around 10 watts for idle.

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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making something like this with eg, amlogic socs, would be significantly faster and require no fans and less power. it would be cool to see someone do something like this with the not terrible rpi broadcom chips

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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Running a 6 node cluster of Pi4s at home now. Did some benchmarks. Long story short. USB thumb drive boot disks are better performance and cheaper than SD cards. Fans are completely unnecessary on a Pi4 with an aluminum heat shield style "case". They do run hotter than with a fan, but they will not be heat throttled with recent firmware.

Example case which does away with the need for fans is: https://www.amazon.com/Geekworm-Raspberry-Computer-Aluminum-...

I've been using the FLIRC case, which appears to be die-cast and looks a little bit more family friendly sitting next to the TV on your entertainment center.

https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-4-case https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-case (for RPi 2 and 3)

Re: Raspberry Pi Server Mark III

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If only there was a standard way of communicating the cost-effectiveness of these things ...

PoE Ethernet would mean just one cable to each device. Hmm ... seems like you can also network boot them over DHCP/TFTP: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberry...

keep in mind that PoE requires an additional PoE hat. That adds another 20$ to the bill for each Pi.

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14882

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