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Re: The web is 30 years old today

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I still find the web to be so beautiful. I can talk and meet people all around the world. I can stream hundreds of videos around every conceivable topic, in 4K60 resolution, on-demand. I can make a livelihood without ever stepping feet out of my home; and conversely, work from almost anywhere that'll give me a visa. The digitized information of our civilization is just one search away.

Your comment reminded me of this video of David Bowie from 1999: https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/1339427341387313155

The excerpt above it, from "The sovereign individual", is pretty depressing. A brand of techno-optimism that we now see has completely fell flat.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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The web is very fascinating space for me. Back in university years I started to realize how much powerful is web. One doesn't have to buy a lot of book in order to learn new things. It's just amazing.

And yet I am a bit pessimistic about the future of the web, in the beginning we all hoped it will created new space, where we will be able to freely speak and share our thoughts, in fact today's web turns into a space where surveillance has become a standard.

The web was created for people, not for capitalists.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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The web became popular to mainstream culture a few years later. Although I'd been using arpnet for over a decade due to university access, I first encountered a "web browser" while working at Electronic Arts on the yet to be released 3D0 in '93 -'94. However, nobody cared diddly squat about "the web", it was empty or nonsense like usenet forums. We only cared about was DOWNLOADING DOOM! Id software released Doom, it…

It’s kind of like where Bitcoin is at (mid-90s web). Most of general public has heard of it by now, of those using most just came because “get rich quick”, and meanwhile nobody really knows if it’s even useful.

By the time the web was as old as bitcoin is now, we were already the other side of the dot com boom/bust and Amazon had a market cap of $2.25B. The web changed everything very quickly.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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The importance of the WWW for me has been research papers and books, dev tools, and jazz & classical music. Although I use it every day, the WWW has become something that I actively mistrust. There are too many predators, both commercial and espionage. I scrape WWW pages from the terminal and download archives for offline reference. Just to use what TBL conceived, it has been necessary to develop multi-layered defenc…

There may be a few sites I don't know about but I wish there was a reputable resource that saved archived information. I think libraries should archive everything on the internet if they haven't already. It would be really neat to give students the ability to surf the web of 2001's ecetera.

By archiving the internet I mean everything. Search engine performance on each date, ads, social traffic.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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Grab a VPN and that won't be a problem anymore.

Sure, that does solve the problem for me as an individual but what about the rest of the people who don't understand proxies and wouldn't even be able to install one with the instructions?

Express VPN is fool-proof. The most advanced thing you can do is flash your router with their firmware in order to do house-wide VPN switch for all devices.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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The Web accelerated everything. The speed of picking up knowledge and general developments has multiplied by who knows how much. The know-how in every single vocation is no longer compartmentalized.

A chef comes up with a new trend in an Austin restaurant, a few weeks later it's all over L.A.

Thank you for visiting! Please sign my guestbook.

Re: The web is 30 years old today

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I agree with you overall, but the internet never been more geofenced than what we see today. Tons of content is no longer available to me as I live in the EU and apparently american companies care so much about my privacy that I can no longer access their websites. Growing up in the 90s, I remember a internet that was without geographical limitations and people doing things for love of that thing, not the perversion…

> the internet never been more geofenced than what we see today. That's because it's increasingly mirroring the real world when it comes to nationalism, regulations, barriers to access, censorship, culture. That outcome was always inevitable, nothing could prevent it. Nations were never going to allow an unencumbered Internet or Web to remain in their territory. If you think the Internet is geofenced now, just wait u…

I does indeed seem inevitable. That's why I'm surprised that some still believe cryptocurrencies are going to escape that fate somehow, even though money is even more critical for governments to control than information.

But in terms of suckiness I think that it's not primarily caused by regulation (although the cookie law does try very hard to inflict maximum pain for zero gain). The funding model is just broken and I don't really see a way to fix it without losing even more freedom and privcy.

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