What are the chances we'll find a cure for Alzheimer's using new mRNA vaccine technology? Edit: Perhaps I should clarify that vaccine and mRNA based treatment approaches for Alzheimer's aren't exactly new and have shown some promise in the past.
'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
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Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#32For those looking to avoid alzheimer’s / dementia, there’s evidence linking it to metabolic dysfunction, and intermittent fasting has been shown to help in mice. https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-growing-science-...
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, sure. Just don't eat, and that'll prevent alzheimer's. If you study history, you have to reconcile these views with the fact that we've been wrong about every medical development until recent history. At one point we were killing cats to curtail the black plague, when in fact it was the fleas that were the cause. We just don't know. And it's fine not to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q
"There's evidence that..." does not equal "To prevent Alzheimer's, do...." Science does not work that way. We start from a hypothesis ("Alzheimer's is a type of metabolic dysfunction."), to test that hypothesis ("Intermittent fasting may delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's."), to finally saying "There's evidence that...." Eventually, once there's enough evidence, we can say with some certainty "To prevent Alzhe…
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#34For those looking to avoid alzheimer’s / dementia, there’s evidence linking it to metabolic dysfunction, and intermittent fasting has been shown to help in mice. https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-growing-science-...
Yeah, sure. Just don't eat, and that'll prevent alzheimer's. If you study history, you have to reconcile these views with the fact that we've been wrong about every medical development until recent history. At one point we were killing cats to curtail the black plague, when in fact it was the fleas that were the cause. We just don't know. And it's fine not to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q
It’s actually the idea of eating all day everyday that’s the innovation. We evolved to be hunter-gatherers; we had to chase down and kill animals for sustenance, and there was no reliable way to preserve that food. Which means that we are adapted to eating once or twice during a day, probably during the daytime, when our bodies are meant to be active, and then abstaining from food. It’s the relatively recent innovations that changed the way we handle our metabolic processes, like having food available all day and filling it with sugar, that are responsible for the proliferation of things like obesity and diabetes, which our ancient ancestor just didn’t have to deal with to the extent that we do, because their diets were more “natural” and less maladaptive compared to ours.
All this is to say that when we’re talking about our diets from a normative point of view, we should think of intermittent fasting sort of as the null hypothesis, necessitating a rebuttal before it can be refuted, and our modern way of stuffing our faces all the time as the alternative hypothesis, requiring justification before it can be accepted.
For a healthy adult it’s probably more sensible to consume one’s diet within a reasonable window, say 8 hours per day, than to be constantly digesting the hyper processed, over sugared nonsense we put into our bodies nowadays, to the point where it overlaps with things like our sleep cycle and when we get our exercise in.
Of course, I’m not a physician, so don’t take my word for it. But you should consider the fact that formal research is increasingly coming to understand the benefits of IF; OP’s link is only one example. We don’t understand the full range of benefits that IF provides because modern medicine, in the grand scheme of things, is still pretty much in its infancy; we’ve existed for approximately 200,000 years, but we’ve only had modern antibiotics for less than 100. But it can’t be denied that so far, things are looking pretty good for intermittent fasting, at least when it comes to its suitability for “healthy” adults.
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#35There is also this story about Clouflares co-founder, Lee Holloway who was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia. [0] https://www.wired.com/story/lee-holloway-devastating-decline...
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#36> Families of people with dementia land in different places on this issue, but to her, it’s beyond question that Jo is not here anymore; most everything that made him Jo has been stolen. This was very sad, but it's a good articulation of the circumstances where I would rather die than continue living. Has anyone seen a good framework to help think through scenarios like these as part of a will or end-of-life directiv…
I don't think in the US or Canada there is any way to legally end your life at that point. Maybe nowhere in the world. You would need to end it while still competent. That would be a difficult line to tread because you don't want to forgo good days and with dementia the good days are the ones where you are competent. By the time the days are bad you can no longer competently end your life.
In an ideal world you could specify some kind of ego-distance from yourself where a painless shutdown would be triggered. But of course we are far from having the ability to measure or even formally describe this concept.
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, sure. Just don't eat, and that'll prevent alzheimer's. If you study history, you have to reconcile these views with the fact that we've been wrong about every medical development until recent history. At one point we were killing cats to curtail the black plague, when in fact it was the fleas that were the cause. We just don't know. And it's fine not to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q
It’s pretty glib to just reduce the idea of intermittent fasting to “you don’t eat.” Intermittent fasting shouldn’t even be seen as some kind of innovation, since it’s essentially a return to how human beings have managed their metabolic processes for tens of thousands of years. It’s actually the idea of eating all day everyday that’s the innovation. We evolved to be hunter-gatherers; we had to chase down and kill an…
But I have my doubts regarding usefulness of IF against dementias. These are strange, autodestructive diseases. Maybe IF can lower their incidence or push them to higher age, but unlike diabetes 2nd type, I cannot believe it can reverse them.
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#38What are the chances we'll find a cure for Alzheimer's using new mRNA vaccine technology? Edit: Perhaps I should clarify that vaccine and mRNA based treatment approaches for Alzheimer's aren't exactly new and have shown some promise in the past.
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#39So far all seems well with my dad other than some expected age-related slowdowns in memory and processing, at least from my perspective. I can’t imagine what it would be like to deal with this so early in life.
I read “Being Mortal” by Atul Gawande this year and it was very helpful in some of the conversations I’ve since had with my family about the future and how we should think about death. I wouldn’t have had the courage to ask my parents what they cared about in life and in death before reading the book, and for that courage I am grateful. I recommend it to everyone because death is the only fate we all share.
Re: 'I am mine': Alzheimer's at 41 (2018)
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, right now in Canada, assisted death is not available if your pain is from mental illness.
does alzheimer's really count as mental illness though? I would think it was more of a disability.