Stanford apologizes after vaccine allocation leaves out medical residents

Post by edoceo » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:07 PM UTC

davidf560 wrote: post #24

amb23 wrote: post #12

The labor of medical residents is something hospital systems exploit during normal times, but that exploitation has severely deepened during the pandemic. At the hospital my partner works at, respiratory therapists and nurses got a $10k bonus for working during COVID; the residents got nothing despite working insane hours in ICU, routinely working more than the legally mandated 90 hours per week. Just because doctors…

> I can name 3 other local hospital systems in my city that have vaccinated administrative & C-suite/VP level staff I don't understand why society is putting up with this. Right now if you're not in a daily COVID-facing role (i.e. an actual front line medical worker) or in a nursing home you should not be getting the shot. This makes my blood boil. There should have been laws passed regarding ordering of the distribu…

Post by faitswulff » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

fairity wrote: post #18

> According to an email sent by a chief resident to other residents, Stanford's leaders explained that an algorithm was used to assign its first allotment of the vaccine. The algorithm was said to have prioritized those health care workers at highest risk for COVID infections, along with factors like age and the location or unit where they work in the hospital. Residents apparently did not have an assigned location,…

Post by fairity » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:11 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #34

fairity wrote: post #28

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I think most people are misunderstanding the likely root cause. > An algorithm was used to assign its first allotment of the vaccine. The algorithm prioritized health care workers at highest risk for COVID infections, along with factors like age and the location or unit where they work in the hospital. Residents did not have an assigned location, and along with their typically young age, they were dropped low on the…

I don't think I was assuming anything in particular about the intents. it's a rather important thing not to check on actual data, including residents in the sample, isn't it? they just never bothered to test the algorithm, didn't even review the results it spit out, before delivering the results as a plan? (it is quite possible indeed they didn't, I'm not saying that is a coverup for some other motive, I'm saying tha…

Post by fairity » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:18 PM UTC

root_axis wrote: post #31

fairity wrote: post #18

> According to an email sent by a chief resident to other residents, Stanford's leaders explained that an algorithm was used to assign its first allotment of the vaccine. The algorithm was said to have prioritized those health care workers at highest risk for COVID infections, along with factors like age and the location or unit where they work in the hospital. Residents apparently did not have an assigned location,…

The outrage stems from the fact that they doubled down on it after the problem was pointed out, this is what caused things to escalate to the level it did, which became a PR nightmare and resulted in them reversing their position. Heads should roll over this, not because there was a mistake in the algorithm, but because the leadership cannot be trusted to make correct decisions in the face of obvious errors.

Post by davidf560 » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:21 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #39

davidf560 wrote: post #33

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> It is ridiculous there aren't much more clear/specific guidelines, and in some cases enforceable policies/regulations, from the federal government. It's like nobody's driving the bus here. Why is this not California's fault? States were each permitted to establish their own procedures, which somewhat makes sense given the challenging distribution requirements of the Pfizer vaccine. Montana has significantly differe…

At all levels, sure. Most states you know have established clear guidelines sayign who gets it and when? Including specifics on what medical staff within a hospital system would get it? Like not just "health care staff" or "first responders" (everyone in the Stanford Medicine system is that already right, this is about who within that group gets it). Please back that up by showing me such clear guidelines from a few…