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Re: Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews

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Post by frgtmypass »

tdeck wrote: post #398
frgtmypass wrote: post #275

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I buy my electronics on B&H. Other photography stores are probably as good. Professional photographers buy from them, even if there's a premium, because they trust B&H. That's B&H competitive advantage; trust. If they screw that up they'll wither away. I used to buy on Newegg, but when I bought my most recent computer build I realized most of it was from third party resellers. They screwed the order up, and it was a…

Your wife should file a chargeback. It's not a difficult process and it somewhat favors the cardholder.

Unfortunately we've had a very bad experience with our credit card lately (Capital One).

Last year for Christmas my wife bought me MotoGP tickets for us to enjoy in Austin during the spring of '20. The race got cancelled due to COVID and they refused to give us a refund. Eventually we asked for a charge back and the credit card refused saying the "organizer claims they settled it". Indeed, by promising us future tickets that are worthless to us (VR46 is retiring, we have kids and need to organize, etc). This was in the summer.

MotoGP just refunded us the tickets, a year after we purchased them. My wife probably spend over ten hours on the phone total and countless scanning documents, etc for the credit card.

Re: Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews

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Post by garaetjjte »

b0rsuk wrote: post #464
pjc50 wrote: post #434

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> Portal, the game by Valve Published in 2007. > I only played it this year Portal is to a great extent a tech demo for its unprecedented "portal" rendering. This enabled some very 3D puzzles of a style that gamers hadn't seen before. Of course it's going to look a little pale in 2020, although you'd hope any original bugs were fixed.

Sharpshooter fallacy: shooting a rifle at a barn and painting a bullseye around the biggest cluster of hits. "Portal is to a great extent a tech demo" (therefore it shouldn't be judged as a game) Yet Portal is sold as a game in its own right. Riven was released in 1997 and is still a delightful intellectual challenge today, with nothing really like it. It's very much the opposite of modern games with a built-in GPS s…

Portal was made as full game, tech demo was earlier Narbacular Drop.

(personally I think Portal is a great game, but obviously it won't satisfy hardcore puzzle-solvers. however I don't think every game have to be about tricky puzzles)

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Post by eins1234 »

gleenn wrote: post #225
AlexITC wrote: post #212

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Having written several browser extensions, I have been thinking on building another one for people to comment on any website. Which ends up being useful for reviews. And, while I like the idea, there are two main details preventing me from pursuing it: - Moderating content provided by users is exhausting/costly. - I see no other way than ads to fund it, while it can potentially work as a paid app, it won't work until…

I think a similar add-on went to court and was deemed illegal. Sorry, can't cite my source. I think it's a pretty common idea but falls flat quickly once you realize there isn't a reliable way to mass vet reviews

Sounds like the next one needs to be built on top of censorship resistant platforms like IPFS and/or Dat.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

delecti wrote: post #462
mixmastamyk wrote: post #385

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I didn't buy it, there was no point. Buying items by the case online should be significantly cheaper than a single purchase at convenience retail. The truth hurts I suppose. They should be interested in the information however, because it cost them and continues to cost them sales among the clueful.

"I didn't buy this because..." is _also_ not a product review. I can't even fault them, they had good reasons for not allowing your post.

Not what I wrote.

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Post by bsd44 »

nextos wrote: post #266
maxk42 wrote: post #210

I'm seeing similar things everywhere. I stood in line for a food truck a couple years ago that offered a promotion "$2 off your order if you show us your 5-star review of our truck on [site]." Obviously, you have to do this before you even order your food so I was intensely put-off by this. I gave them a 5-star review with no comment, received my discount, then after I tried the food I edited the review to 1-star wit…

Google reviews are massively edited upon complaints. A while ago I rented a pretty nice and expensive apartment in Southern England. I was the first tenant and there were huge pipe leaks and other horrible construction issues, like a misaligned lift that kept trapping people inside. Neighbors next door, who owned apartments built by the same company, had different but equally annoying issues. And the company didn't d…

Same here, also SEE. Upon renewal of the lease, I noticed they put in the contract a clause that says you are not allowed to leave negative reviews online (I guess a lot of people left negative reviews due to poor service). How can that even be legal to put something like that in the contract?

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Post by tinus_hn »

dragonwriter wrote: post #477
tinus_hn wrote: post #425

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There’s plenty of exceptions like the DMCA forcing a host to restore access to something if a counterclaim is filed. Or being required to communicate the surgeons general warning on tobacco products.

> There’s plenty of exceptions like the DMCA forcing a host to restore access to something if a counterclaim is filed. The DMCA doesn't do that. The DMCA allows a host to do that without liability for infringement, and continues to provide the host immunity to liability for any claims the user would otherwise have for the original takedown so long as they do that (the second half is the closest thing to force, but it…

That’s just false:

No liability for taking down generally

[...]unless[...]

C) replaces the removed material and ceases disabling access to it not less than 10, nor more than 14, business days following receipt of the counter notice [...]

USC 512.g.2.c

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Post by tinus_hn »

Natanael_L wrote: post #472
tinus_hn wrote: post #425

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There’s plenty of exceptions like the DMCA forcing a host to restore access to something if a counterclaim is filed. Or being required to communicate the surgeons general warning on tobacco products.

DMCA counter claims do not force a restore, it just permits the host to restore without personal liability for infringement (as the uploader takes on the full legal liability for the material, and often need to identify themselves in the process).

No. The original claim also removes liability for taking down the material. But if a counter notice is filed the material must be restored after no less than 10 and no more than 14 days or liability resumes.

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Post by dragonwriter »

bsd44 wrote: post #485
nextos wrote: post #266

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Google reviews are massively edited upon complaints. A while ago I rented a pretty nice and expensive apartment in Southern England. I was the first tenant and there were huge pipe leaks and other horrible construction issues, like a misaligned lift that kept trapping people inside. Neighbors next door, who owned apartments built by the same company, had different but equally annoying issues. And the company didn't d…

Same here, also SEE. Upon renewal of the lease, I noticed they put in the contract a clause that says you are not allowed to leave negative reviews online (I guess a lot of people left negative reviews due to poor service). How can that even be legal to put something like that in the contract?

> Upon renewal of the lease, I noticed they put in the contract a clause that says you are not allowed to leave negative reviews online (I guess a lot of people left negative reviews due to poor service). How can that even be legal to put something like that in the contract?

Are you really asking how non-disparagement clauses can be legal?

Why wouldn't they be legal?

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Post by einpoklum »

handedness wrote: post #239
einpoklum wrote: post #229

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> Amazon has come a long way on a lot of fronts You mean, the various fronts in the struggle for world domination? :-(

Sure, but to be entirely fair, they do execute pretty well on some things where others either didn't, or still don't. I'm happy to give credit where due, but as a zero-hassle way of ordering things, between their fakes, their absurd experimentation with insufficient packaging, their sub-par regional delivery networks, their broken review system, their clamping down on independent sellers across many categories, and a…

Yes, they do execute pretty well on a lot of things, granted.

However, I've had no trouble ordering things from many on-line stores/distributors which aren't Amazon and don't use Amazon. So that isn't an Amazon thing per se.

Re: Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews

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Post by Natanael_L »

tinus_hn wrote: post #487
Natanael_L wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DMCA counter claims do not force a restore, it just permits the host to restore without personal liability for infringement (as the uploader takes on the full legal liability for the material, and often need to identify themselves in the process).

No. The original claim also removes liability for taking down the material. But if a counter notice is filed the material must be restored after no less than 10 and no more than 14 days or liability resumes.

https://www.itproportal.com/2013/04/09/youtube-does-not-rest...
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