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Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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PyCharm is a no-nonsense, straightforward IDE, that's a pleasure to use. They somehow manage to avoid annoying feature bloat and crapware. No nagging, no bullshit, they are actually creating features that improve workflows instead of features to tick boxes on corporate purchasing department meeting room flipcharts or buzzword bingo. Remarkable and I really hope they don't get bought-and-killed by one of the giants. O…

fantastic application for education as well. The debugger has been a very full featured and useful tool for teaching.

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How is the perf / mem usage in Rider vs VS w/ Resharper?

From my experience it eats up more memory. My project i avg around 1.2 gb in VS. vs 2.5 in Rider. But the application is much more responsive.

How are you measuring the memory usage of each?

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Agreed - JetBrains is one of those companies where their products speak for themselves, and I happily pay every year. Absolutely money well spent.

Yes! My JetBrains Ultimate renews every November and I get a little giddy in anticipation of paying them for another year. It’s just such an amazing value. JetBrains is so good it’s like finding money on the sidewalk.

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Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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I just bought a personal IDE licence a few days ago. JetBrains makes one of the best IDEs I've ever used, and I consider that 100€ well spent.

Agreed - JetBrains is one of those companies where their products speak for themselves, and I happily pay every year. Absolutely money well spent.

At a time I'd purchase both JRebel and IntelliJ. JRebel had a really "aggressive" sales team that would call and email about renewals. Jetbrains has never had to call me, their product sells itself, for me. I no longer use JRebel.

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JetBrains is one of my favourite ever companies! A few years back I switched from Visual Studio + ReSharper to Rider, and haven't looked back - it's such a fantastic, fully-featured, stable product. I have a personal license that let's me use ReSharper, Rider, dotCover, dotMemory (love this!), dotTrace. Some of the best money I've ever spent, and I happily renew year on year. I also love the pricing model that reduce…

How is the perf / mem usage in Rider vs VS w/ Resharper?

I've used it on a 250-projects solution, and performance is much better than VS+R# or VS alone. Still not recommended, obviously. On smaller projects, I find also it snappier. It uses as much CPU as VS, and eats up more RAM.

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> Hmm. You're dodging the question: Why would a cofounder want to start a company with you? No handwaving. > People cofound to get rich. Can your company offer that to your cofounder? I don't know. Why did Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak start Apple together? I feel like you're laboring under a very limited model of how and why companies are founded and how people behave.

The model happens to be aligned with how and why people actually start companies. It's not my model. You have to come up with a persuasive answer to "Why should I work as hard as I can on this company, rather than go work for Google?" That question is in fact so hard that it (possibly) almost killed YC in the crib, back in '08. No one wants to work for a startup when they can get paid far more and live an easier life…

Statistically you are right that big tech currently provides the best expected value for a programmer, but in practice people's decisions aren't based on a single criteria. A lot of people find working for Google soul crushing and would happily take a $100k job that gives them more control and impact versus trying to navigate the path to promotion and relevance in a sea of stillborn products at Google.

I also agree founders want to get rich, I mean who doesn't? It's a nice fantasy. However if they don't have a deeper motivation to solve a problem for its own sake they will fail. If you're super smart and just want to get rich, the right move is to go into finance because you'll never cross the chasm of building something people actually want. Even the language you use to describe the premise indicates you don't really get what makes successful founders tick. Founders don't "work for a startup" and they don't need to be convinced—the whole point is these are people who have decided for one reason or another that they are passionate about building a company. You might think them fools because 25yo engineers are making $500k at FAANG and that is a high bar to clear for any startup (it is), but consider that all SWEs under 35 have never known a recession, and they may have come to believe that a programmer is inherently worth $500k even though this is just market rate given todays demand. If there is another dot-com style correction, a bunch of folks might find out real quick what the value of knowing how to make your own dollar is.

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Just out of interest, what other development-focused forums are there?

Forums in general have been dying out for a while now, unfortunately. I think this was back in August 2015 and at the time, I was an active member of some now-dead forums on the ProBoards network and I distinctly remember looking at either laravel.io or the Laracasts forums to gauge reaction.

I see. All I have left is this and the programming subreddit. The latter suffers a lot from new programmers and unrelated content (something like „I wrote my first HTML Tag today). Programming language specific subreddits suffer from a low number of subscribers. YC suffers from elite mindsets and arrogance (most notably on topics like modern javascript)
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