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Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:03 PM UTC

Has anybody tried to make Vim act as close as a JetBrains IDE?

Some people code in Vim and think they're ace but that's just so far behind no matter how you tweak it.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

shay_ker wrote: post #170

What do Jetbrains customers mostly use? From my understanding, it's mostly Intellij and GoLand, and some PyCharm. At least two of the three are languages that are every difficult to be productive in with Sublime or Vim alone. I guess PyCharm allows you to stop thinking about whitespace? In seriousness, not trying to start another holy war.

What language can you even be much proficient with Vim compared to JetBrains?

Vim is only good for editing config files.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:06 PM UTC

singularity2001 wrote: post #21

manojlds wrote: post #3

Ok so everyone knows and loves JetBrains. What's their worst product so far?

I'd say Android Studio and the whole gradle mess

Compared to the previous Eclipse environment, it's ton so much better...

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:07 PM UTC

izacus wrote: post #63

manojlds wrote: post #3

Ok so everyone knows and loves JetBrains. What's their worst product so far?

YouTrack... I've never used a more confusing and feature lacking bug tracking system. And I've used both JIRA and BugZilla in professional capacity :)

Agreed. Never felt that their own bug tracker is impressive compared to other online services. It's just messy and not easy on the eyes. Maybe a different team is working on it?

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:09 PM UTC

jordanab wrote: post #91

Aeolun wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Datagrip. I honestly still cannot understand why their database product does not show the encoding/collation for fields in mysql (and has no way to do it either).

I disagree. I use it daily as my tool to manage data in MySQL, Postgress, Sql server and Db2 databases, and it's probably one of my favorite JetBrains tools. As a Linux user there aren't that many good options available, and I am very grateful that they added this product to their line.

For a standalone app, DataGrip is just too bloated and slow.

Native apps like TablePlus is so much faster to work with.

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Post by diebeforei485 » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:09 PM UTC

Honestly I've found it to over-promise in terms of its capabilities. When working on code with a complex type hierarchy, features like click-through definitions show the wrong thing, which has resulted in lost productivity for me.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:11 PM UTC

throw14082020 wrote: post #52

I don't want to seem like a complainer, but AppCode is still not working as good as I'd like (indexing is really slow, misses out of a lot features that other Jetbrains products have, and also extra bugs). But it's still 5x better than XCode . And thats the point, they're making a better iOS development environment than Apple They miss out on some features where you have to XCode, but this is Apple's fault.

Agreed. I just quit using it and thrown in Vim key binding to xcode instead.

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Post by mekster » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:12 PM UTC

dxxvi wrote: post #101

I wish Jetbrains would lower the personal license price. I use my compnay license all the time but still pay Jetbrains $89 every year (don't know why I've been doing that for a few years already, should give it a second thought).

Personal license is already low... You'd be paying in the range of $10/mo. I'd rather complain to companies like Adobe to ask for $50/mo with their domination because of their proprietary file format.

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Post by Scfix » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:13 PM UTC

bigmattystyles wrote: post #385

GordonS wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JetBrains is one of my favourite ever companies! A few years back I switched from Visual Studio + ReSharper to Rider, and haven't looked back - it's such a fantastic, fully-featured, stable product. I have a personal license that let's me use ReSharper, Rider, dotCover, dotMemory (love this!), dotTrace. Some of the best money I've ever spent, and I happily renew year on year. I also love the pricing model that reduce…

How is the perf / mem usage in Rider vs VS w/ Resharper?

From my experience it eats up more memory. My project i avg around 1.2 gb in VS. vs 2.5 in Rider. But the application is much more responsive.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Post by arooaroo » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 9:15 PM UTC

IntelliJ is great, PyCharm is good. But RubyMine is the one I’ve used daily for years and it’s a bit of a dog’s dinner and I think getting progressively worse over the years.

I’ve been summarising issues lately:

- https://andyroberts-uk.medium.com/rubymine-code-insights-or-...

- https://medium.com/swlh/rubymine-more-distractions-part-2-24...