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Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Before JetBrains, I considered IDE to be a bloated, slow and hard to use tool and preferred a more lightweight text editors.

JetBrains has changed that idea and shows what an IDE is supposed to be. Featureful but they're actually helpful form the developer's point of view.

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That is actually a misconception. You may have this mental classification of Java as a slow language if you looked at its performance 20 years ago. Now it's actually really fast, it goes neck to neck with C++. Sure, Rust or Go or C (or definitely assembler) might be faster in some workloads, but Java is definitely very very fast nowadays. It uses a lot of memory because of the way Garbage Collection works, but it is…

Java is fast enough for most things, but try working with an array of a million objects in C++ vs Java and you will see the difference. In Java you will have to deal with an array with a million pointers to a million objects and in C++ you will deal with a sequential segment of memory that is a million times the size of your object - and mostly in your CPUs cache. That alone will be much, much faster. But you can't d…

You typically wouldn't use an array with a million objects in Java if you cared about performance though (for exactly that reason), you'd architect it some other way. Using SoA style when appropriate, for example.

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PyCharm is a no-nonsense, straightforward IDE, that's a pleasure to use. They somehow manage to avoid annoying feature bloat and crapware. No nagging, no bullshit, they are actually creating features that improve workflows instead of features to tick boxes on corporate purchasing department meeting room flipcharts or buzzword bingo. Remarkable and I really hope they don't get bought-and-killed by one of the giants. O…

Shoutout for RubyMine, Goland and Pycharm - all excellent and reliable.

If you're going to use more than 3 of their offerings, it starts to get cheaper going with the all products pack or IntelliJ ultimate is cheaper than going with 2 tools. But you should note that IntelliJ doesn't include every other products as plugins such as AppCode.

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Moscow and St Petersberg... that is interesting. I'm a fan of their tools as well, but it is good to learn the Russian angle and take it into account.

Well, it is a Russian company (although not legally, for obvious reasons). Kotlin is named after an island just of the coast of St Petersburg, for example.

JetBrains is a Czech company because the founders lived in Prague at the time (maybe they are still living there, no idea).

Most of the staff is Russian though which sort of makes it a Russian company I guess?

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I'm surprised that I don't see more of the HN typical anti-Java stance where the wisdom on here is that you can't build UI applications in Java. Here is a $7B company built entirely with Java Swing providing (IMHO) the best developer tools across almost all languages. Recently, JetBrains gave me an unlimited lifetime license for all their software because I have been a loyal customer for 17 years - very generous. And…

I did not realize that it was Swing, since they're not using the Metal L&F. I always wanted to like Swing, but the look and feel were never very good. IntelliJ feels great.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Not a JetBrains employee, but which features are you specifically looking for? I've never found a single option in the IDE that's available through a menu that cannot be assigned a shortcut.

I just want them to make a stand-alone git client - their 3 way merge for merge conflicts is second to none.

Indeed. And it seems that it is quite separate already UI wise. So why not.

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is the EXTjs tookit any good?. I am in a project where I am forced to use EXTJS classic ( coming from React).

Probably want to stick to 4.2.1 GPL [1] (there are GPL versions on 5.x and 6.x but only minor point releases) I think it's great for enterprise form-fill-in applications. It's a complete widget set for doing in the browser what GUI apps from 20 years ago had in Java (for example) I have no interest whatsoever in writing web applications by using multiple components from multiple sources. I want to use a single toolki…

My project is a frontend for a CRUD app which a huge database. I will definitely ask for help when I am at my wits end! Thank you !

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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I'd like to understand how these guys make money, I've used the free version of IntelliJ for years and never required anymore than this! Does people actually buy licenses ?

Yeah, they are cheap (for US professionals, at least). I've subscribed to their products for over half a decade now and have it on auto-renew without thinking.

If you take the personal license, from 3rd year, you only pay $15/mo for everything they got.

Thank god they don't do Adobe and make a single app cost $50/mo or some such stupid pricing.

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