Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

You're not understanding the market though. You're talking about it like it's a tool. Instead, it's entertainment and hype - a combination people emotionally invest in.

They're not upset the tool can't do the job; they're upset that their emotions are left hanging. It's a movie without a climax. It's Game of Thrones. A refund doesn't touch on the core of why people are upset with Cyberpunk in the same way that a refund wouldn't matter for the people upset with the last season of Game of Thrones.

Marketing for Hype is a dangerous game. CDPR is experiencing the result of emotion based sales when combined with under delivering.

The PlayStation store will only issue a refund if you haven't started downloading the game or the game is "faulty", which they don't define and may be hard to prove. The Xbox store refund policy is less clear but it is certainly not an guaranteed refund.

PlayStation Store: "you have 14 days from purchase to request a refund. If you have started to download or stream the purchased content you will not be eligible for a refund unless the content is faulty." https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/store/ps-store-ref...

Xbox Store: "All sales of Digital Game Products are considered final, but we understand there may be extenuating circumstances. When you request a refund for these products, and depending on the purchase or content type in determining refund eligibility, we consider a variety of factors like time since date of purchase, time since release, and use of the product." https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/bu...

Edit: Now that they are offering refunds, you are correct. People should stop complaining and just take their refund.

> In GTA and Red Dead Redemption 2 it is far more fun to create havoc than to play any of the missions

While non-storyline gameplay is definitely more fun in Rockstar games, I think the mission and sidequest gameplay is way more fun than CP2077's as well.

Consider this earlier mission in GTAV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikop7td88ks

It involves a car chase, NPCs jumping in and out of moving vehicles, a boat mast swinging into traffic, shooting while driving, etc. This is all done smoothly, with no animation glitches or jankiness.

A mission after that involves a bicycle race, swimming and boarding a boat, followed by an intense jet ski race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqvAgzr3To

So far in my admittedly short ~12h playtime of CP2077 on PC I haven't seen anything equally as engaging, well designed or just plain fun. Most of the missions involve shooting galleries interspersed by cutscenes to showcase action set pieces, and there's a lot of on-rails shooting from the passenger seat, which feels like gameplay from several generations ago, not from a next-gen title.

I don't understand complaints that it shouldn't be compared to GTA given that CDPR themselves describe it as an "open-world action-adventure story", so comparing it to games that set the bar for open-world gameplay is only fair, and in my opinion it falls very, very short on those terms.

Just like it does on its RPG elements. Like others mentioned, it falls short when compared to even the original Deus Ex, let alone the more recent installments. This is probably why CDPR decided to avoid marketing it primarily as an RPG in 2019: https://i.imgur.com/oDldUQQ.png

All in all this was a massive disappointment for me, and I actively avoided trailers and marketing to avoid the hype. Even if all the bugs and performance issues are fixed hopefully a few months from now, the gameplay will still be mediocre at best. The only thing I'm partially still interested in is the story, though from what I've read that seems to be underwhelming as well.

This was the cherry on top of 2020. What a year.

> going to work at a certified quality level.

Is there an objective certificate authority that get give a game such "quality level"?

There are gamers that play on xbox/ps and are happy with it (they are even in this thread, look it up).

So some expect miracles from a dated hardware (with HDD, which is unbelievable on a PC since almost a decade) - one can work magic with it (I mean Carmack-magician), but you need more time (like years) - is there a point in doing that if just around a corner is nextgen and a PC version works fine?

There are people that are happy with such version if you are not don't buy it but don't take the fun away from others that have lower expectations.

Assuming all choices are between two options, you could make this claim about any game with (five endings and...) more than three choices for the player to make. if one of the choices has three options, two choices will do the job of selecting between 5 endings.

What's the point of the map, if all you're concerned about is which ending you get? If there are 40 choices with an average of 3 options each, it's still obvious before you buy or even hear anything about the game that it won't have 12,157,665,459,056,928,801 endings.