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I think Chromebooks did ARM years before Apple, no?
Has anyone seriously used chromebooks for development work? That's the difference.
The Ampere Altra Review: 2x 80 Cores Arm Server Performance Monster
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I'd be curious to see AES encryption performance compared between the same CPUs from Ampere, Intel, and AMD. In my experience, Intel have a significant performance advantage with their AES-NI implementation over AMD. I wonder what Ampere's cores can do. For some workloads, special things like AES-NI or other optimizations which only Intel (or another vendor) have can make a huge difference in real world performance w…
> I'd be curious to see AES encryption performance compared between the same CPUs from Ampere, Intel, and AMD. In my experience, Intel have a significant performance advantage with their AES-NI implementation over AMD. I wonder what Ampere's cores can do. AMD in Zen1 had 2x AES-pipelines, allowing 2x 128-bit AES operations per clocktick. Intel caught up later, and eventually also added 2x AES-pipelines of their own.…
From benchmarks listed here: https://calomel.org/aesni_ssl_performance.html it seems that Intel had similar performance in their 2015 release of the i7-6700 as AMD's 2017 release of Ryzen 7 1800X.
Raw general purpose benchmarks I found via Google put the Ryzen 7 1800X at about twice the compute capability as an i7-6700, but their AES performance is quite even.
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I think Chromebooks did ARM years before Apple, no?
Yes but they were terrible. Just being ARM isn't some kind of magic dust. It has to actually be fast.
The M1 is a nice product. But let's not pretend it's the first ARM device in the world. It has plenty of merits to rest on that it don't need that qualifier as justification, anyways.
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#144These things look awesome, but are pretty expensive, still. I'd love to put an ARM server in my homelab, but the price range between 100$ (RPi & Co) and 10000$ (enterprise server) seems pretty empty right now :/
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#145This line is the kicker for me: "Intel’s current Xeon offering simply isn’t competitive in any way or form at this moment in time." The rest of the paragraph twists the knife more, and declares there to be an open market on server hardware for AMD and Ampere to fight it out. With application stacks being what they are and optimizations for Xeon so deeply integrated, it's unlikely that folks running private datacenter…
AMD should see the writing on the wall and start designing ARM CPUs. I think that would be very exciting because they have the engineering expertise and talent necessary to compete against Apple's M1. I don't know of any other company that can do that (besides Intel, but you know...). Additionally, there is a huge hole open right now for ARM on everything else that is not an Apple product. Apple normalized ARM on con…
Of course, it's probably a mix, but I don't know if ARM alone has much in that mix. It does seem to me that, even if ARM held no performance benefit over x86, Apple would still decide to use it based on their use of it in their hugely successful mobile products.
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#146I keep seeing the Google Chrome logo in the fan frame: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16315/X-T30_DSF3724_575px....
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#147How close are Intel to releasing anything that's a "next gen" core design and not just incremental design change or node shrink? When will Intel's "Zen2" arrive? Are there any rumors?
SemiAccurate thinks no where on the horizon. They have a good track record on these things. See this for example. https://www.semiaccurate.com/2020/11/12/intel-delays-a-mains...
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#14832cores for 800$, feasible for a nice home server rig
but really, in what way would 32 cores become useful in a home server, except running a bunch of VMs that do nothing or donate money in terms of electricity to folding@home
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AMD should see the writing on the wall and start designing ARM CPUs. I think that would be very exciting because they have the engineering expertise and talent necessary to compete against Apple's M1. I don't know of any other company that can do that (besides Intel, but you know...). Additionally, there is a huge hole open right now for ARM on everything else that is not an Apple product. Apple normalized ARM on con…
It's not totally clear to me if the M1 gains are from the 5nm process, which even AMD hasn't transitioned too yet while still smoking everything Intel on 7nm, from ARM itself, or from some mix of both. Of course, it's probably a mix, but I don't know if ARM alone has much in that mix. It does seem to me that, even if ARM held no performance benefit over x86, Apple would still decide to use it based on their use of it…
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AMD should see the writing on the wall and start designing ARM CPUs. I think that would be very exciting because they have the engineering expertise and talent necessary to compete against Apple's M1. I don't know of any other company that can do that (besides Intel, but you know...). Additionally, there is a huge hole open right now for ARM on everything else that is not an Apple product. Apple normalized ARM on con…
AMD might already be working on an ARM design[1]. [1] https://www.techspot.com/news/87851-amd-rumored-working-arm-... .