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California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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"Americans will always do the right thing - after exhausting all the alternatives." -- Churchill 3 vaccines in record time.. I know J&J is still pending. I want the Healthcare/CDC/FDA pipeline to be improved.. Without American ingenuity the world is a much bleaker place.

You realize Russia and China had ones quicker?

I never claimed US was fastest in spite of my skepticism about Russia and China, but it's the US vaccines that would get wide spread use in ending this pandemic.

3 is a good number and perhaps more will come from USA.

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As an American, it has been incredibly demoralizing seeing one institution after another fail miserably. I didn’t have high expectations, but oh boy did we fall way short.

CDC was muzzled by Trump admin. and a lot of that cascaded downwards. But still, horrible to see.

Not sure why you're being downvoted (other than by angry Trump supporters). This is a factually true statement.

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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"Americans will always do the right thing - after exhausting all the alternatives." -- Churchill 3 vaccines in record time.. I know J&J is still pending. I want the Healthcare/CDC/FDA pipeline to be improved.. Without American ingenuity the world is a much bleaker place.

The Pfizer vaccine was developed in Germany. The Oxford vaccine was developed in the UK. Of the approved vaccines, only the Moderna vaccine was developed in the US (and it's actually being manufactured in Switzerland). The J&J vaccine is being developed in Belgium. That's not to say that the US hasn't been playing important roles, both now and in the research that enabled this. But "without American ingenuity" we'd b…

Did you get vaccinated?

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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As an American, it has been incredibly demoralizing seeing one institution after another fail miserably. I didn’t have high expectations, but oh boy did we fall way short.

CDC was muzzled by Trump admin. and a lot of that cascaded downwards. But still, horrible to see.

Muzzled, what an apt term in this situation

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Was the Defense Production Act successful at ramping up production of PPE? It's been 8 months since I've seen a proper N95 mask on store shelves. Hearing that someone close was going through the same thing as your partner, bringing home used masks and having to hit the black market/eBay for respirators with cartridges so they wouldn't become lightheaded when transporting patients all day was shocking. I think what's…

My understanding from earlier reading of HN was that it takes months (closer to 1 year than 1 month from what I remember) to standup a new production line for N95 masks. With the supply chain constraints & presumable demand for such things that could possibly take even longer to set up, I think it is understandable that we haven't seen an increased supply on store shelves.

I just don’t see how this can be the reality that we’re living in. These things were $1/per at retail before the pandemic. People are ready to pay many multiples ($10/day? Sure. $20/day? Yeah) of that now, how are the economic incentives not aligned to make these things be extremely common and easy for everyone to buy.

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Swine flu pandemic was in 2009. Your timeline is off.

Sorry, it was "avian flu". From the article... > In 2006, citing the threat of avian flu, then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced the state would invest hundreds of millions of dollars in a powerful set of medical weapons to deploy in the case of large-scale emergencies and natural disasters such as earthquakes, fires and pandemics.

Thanks! Just letting you know (no big deal clearly).

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Citation please? I find this incredibly hard to believe.

Didn’t read the article did you?

The article seems bogus. The state is in the process of getting masks out to people:

""" As of Dec. 7, the state's PPE stockpile included:

    178.7 million N95 respirators
    339 million surgical masks
    63.8 million procedure gowns
    19.5 million face shields
    152.2 million sets of protective gloves
https://www.desertsun.com/story/money/business/2020/12/09/fr... """

That ain't half a billion N95 masks.

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Doesn't the California Nurses Union strike almost regularly, anyway? Assuming that nurses have a better understanding of the virus than average laypeople, and given the facts of the number of positive cases, plus the facts which undermine the claims (California seems to actually have a stockpile), it seems unprofessional and unethical in the extreme to strike at this time.

Somebody will always tell you that you are unprofessional and unethical if you strike, in my experience.

Source: years as a workplace rep in UK school under austerity government cutting public sector pay and pensions, plus 3 years as a branch secretary.

Re: California nurses union plans holiday strike over PPE

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Doesn't the California Nurses Union strike almost regularly, anyway? Assuming that nurses have a better understanding of the virus than average laypeople, and given the facts of the number of positive cases, plus the facts which undermine the claims (California seems to actually have a stockpile), it seems unprofessional and unethical in the extreme to strike at this time.

Somebody will always tell you that you are unprofessional and unethical if you strike, in my experience. Source: years as a workplace rep in UK school under austerity government cutting public sector pay and pensions, plus 3 years as a branch secretary.

You would think that standing up against practises that are endangering health-worker's health, and in tow the health of their patients, would be the most professional thing to do.
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