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Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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Since their HQ is in Russia is no one else concerned that their IDE may be subject to Russian spying? I mean, I'm currently reading the book Sandworm. And it is known in the cybersecurity world that Russia coerces or intimidates companies and devs to work for them as spies.

It says on jetbrains.com that their HQ is in Prague, Czech Republic. On wikipedia it says they're a Czech company with headquarters in Prague, Czech Republic.

edit: Looks like they're maybe not entirely transparent about that.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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The thing that most impresses me about JetBrains' products, after the very real "This was made by developers" feel to them, and the excellent community interaction, and the regular and plentiful updates.. is the price. They don't price gouge their users. They could double their prices and still have plenty of sales (but I guess they'd probably lose a lot of personal licenses.)

I'm sure they have actually done the numbers and perhaps even determined they are making more money this way, but from an outside/ignorant perspective it sure feels nice for a company to not have some MBA pushing that profit curve for all its worth and delivering damn good value for money for once.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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I canceled all my personal jetbrains products a few years ago after meeting some of their team at GopherCon. I vote with my money and I was a 5+ year subscriber up until that point. I visited their booth with same enthusiasm as other posters here and lavished praise on their tooling and talked about how excited I was for their Go IDE and they just stared at me and said “Ok, thanks”. Something so empty and almost a pr…

Maybe is a culture/language thing. Because I am not a native English speaker and I almost never have to speak (only read and write) when we have a video conference I always express myself with few words because I am aware how terrible I sound so I will use a lot of OK,Yes, Sure ...

Yes, those Russians can be quite blunt. I once found a great library maintained by a Russian guy that had zero issues on Github. I created an issue for a feature request and was brushed off with unexpected rudeness. Later I looked at this again and found that he was absolutely correct with his argument and his communication was just very efficient and I am sure he did not mean to be rude.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

#105

I canceled all my personal jetbrains products a few years ago after meeting some of their team at GopherCon. I vote with my money and I was a 5+ year subscriber up until that point. I visited their booth with same enthusiasm as other posters here and lavished praise on their tooling and talked about how excited I was for their Go IDE and they just stared at me and said “Ok, thanks”. Something so empty and almost a pr…

I'm sorry to hear that. We really strive to talk to everyone we can, and we are happy to hear all the stories from subscribers, or otherwise. Feedback, and more importantly, meeting with people is why we go to conferences.

Can you please remember at which GopherCon / year this happened?

I'm usually part of all the conferences teams and I can say that at conferences such as GopherCon US 2019, I speak daily with 200-300 people easily at the booth.

All of our booth staff is developers + myself (Developer Advocate) and from time to time we are joined by our Product Marketing Manager.

It's not an excuse for this type of reply, and I believe that nobody should be treated like this.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a big fan and user of PyCharm for many years, but we all know that when my fan starts going and the laptop wants to take off, we can guarantee that PyCharm is indexing ;)

Sure there are some places to improve. My only complaint is with the remote features, now with covid. I want to seamlessly work as if I was sitting in the office (I can ssh to the machine). My current setup is to sshfs mount my remote code, install a conda env on my laptop mirroring the office one, and execute things in a terminal window. PyCharm then becomes an editor, autocompleter, refactoring tool, code navigatio…

They seem to releasing Code With Me soon (it's currently in EAP, I understood it should come with 2020.3). I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like it could be used a bit like VS Code's remote development mode. It does have some restrictions, but hopefully those will end up being fixed (e.g. currently you need to accept the sessions via GUI instead of being able to let it do automatically via SSH & some tool windows don't work thru it (like Maven)).

https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/14896-code-with-me

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

#107
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed - JetBrains is one of those companies where their products speak for themselves, and I happily pay every year. Absolutely money well spent.

And their pricing model is great. All products subscription stars $250 but after 2 years its only $150!

Agreed, and the education pack is so good. Perpetually free as long as you're a student has been a lifesaver—honestly can't live without CLion and PyCharm at this point.

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a big fan and user of PyCharm for many years, but we all know that when my fan starts going and the laptop wants to take off, we can guarantee that PyCharm is indexing ;)

Sure there are some places to improve. My only complaint is with the remote features, now with covid. I want to seamlessly work as if I was sitting in the office (I can ssh to the machine). My current setup is to sshfs mount my remote code, install a conda env on my laptop mirroring the office one, and execute things in a terminal window. PyCharm then becomes an editor, autocompleter, refactoring tool, code navigatio…

In my team we have actually managed to have it working like I am in the office, but with a VPN.

With the remote interpreter, we use Docker, I can debug code that is running on our servers.

And if you set up deployment any changes on your files are automatically uploaded to the remote files, without multiple copies it just overwrites them.

Its a pleasure to work with, I can debug GPU-cuda issues on my macbook with PyCharm GUI!! It was a little bit convoluted to set up, we followed this guide: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-33489

Re: Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help

#110
I had my own personal license for Resharper across three jobs because it was much easier just to pay for it myself than try to justify my company to expense it.

I would hate going to another developer’s computer trying to show them something and then realize the feature I was using was part of R# instead of Visual Studio. It was painful.

Now that I have left the C# world for Node, Python and AWS, VSCode with plug-ins are more than adequate.

JetBrains and Hashicorp are definitely two of my favorite companies in the Dev/Devops space.

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