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Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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Why the hell do they even have these top secret data over the network? They should cold store anything sensitive.

It's difficult and expensive to store this data without access to any network at all. Anything sent via email would still have to be sent via some other method if you didn't have email.

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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I have to wonder how many corporations have been hacked but we will never know, because they are worried about the value of their stock. This could actually be a much greater threat to hobbling our infrastructure or blackmailing wealthy people to do their bidding.

I worked for a company that had all their Customer data stolen and then sold on a darknet market place. They completely swept it under the rug, told the infosec guys that if they talked about the incident with anyone they would have their employment terminated and that it was to never be discussed because they were worried about their share price. We also have laws here in Australia that says if this happens to a bus…

How did that mass firing not trigger the whistleblower laws?

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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It feels like we're in the calm before the storm and nobody is watching the approaching squall. China growing in power and influence, flexing itself on the global stage. The US waning internationally, citizens divided and full of hate. We're factory-less, fab-less, and have fewer educated. Fewer consumers. Lots of debt. We have SpaceX, but China's pace of exploration and international cooperation is increasing faster…

I think China has been playing us for years, and doing so masterfully. There's no _good_ reason for the US, with our economy and standing, to be ripping itself apart from within -- but, indeed we are. Not only is China growing in power and influence, as you point out, it has been investing in American media and other industries. They're famous for playing their strategic game over a long span of time (the long game).…

> My pet theory is that Hollywood, Silicon Valley and the Left are thoroughly (and probably unwittingly) influenced by the infiltration, and are the medium for memes and messaging that divides us so much. It's as though we're about to re-fight the Civil War.

Interesting you should attribute that to “Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the Left” since the people spreading memes and propaganda literally advocating either a new Civil War and publicly advocating military overthrow of the lawfully elected government are on the Right (the former groups like the Boogaloo bois; the latter a number of prominent figures, including recently pardoned former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn.)

> China, the master that it is at cultural revolution and re-education, is playing a shrewd game.

Both the pro-Trump elites counselling extra-Constitutional violence and some of the more (superficially, at least) grassroots groups in the White nationalist/supremacist vein preaching race war have been well documented to have been engaged with and influenced by Russia; China less so.

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zoomers on TikTok hate capitalism and the military, and it seems like they're being indoctrinated by an "algorithm". I don't see how that connects to your larger point. Can you please explain?

Capitalism is fuels our wealth machine. The military helps project power and protect our interests. If younger generations grow up hating these structures, they might vote against them.

Stagnant wages, unattainable housing, crushing student loans, the collapse of the American dream, young people don’t hate capitalism because of TikTok propaganda, they hate it because it has completely failed them.

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, didn't invent slavery, "hey we're not the bad guys there!". That sentence is true enough, but it seems large swathes of your population are still proudly defending their ancestors who fought a civil war in order to maintain their ability to enslave people who didn't look like them.

We had a black president 4 years ago, we have a black VP coming in now, Some southeners are rascist, get over it

Your first sentence tells me if I want to continue this debate, I'm going to have to talk to you like you're 12 years old. Sorry for the condensation, but, I can't even...

Obama himself has said that his election doesn't mean racism is over, e.g. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/16/935475339/obama-on-racial-iss...

"Some southerners"? Talk about belittling the problem.

Yeah yeah, I'll take the chill pill, wow, everything's fine now, and will be fine. Sure the world is going to burn up in a climate-change-induced conflict, but hey, relax, take a chill pill, in death you won't feel any pain.

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

#176

The solarwinds hack gets more expansive every time we find out more. This really doesn't bode well.

Yea, what concerns me is the sophistication of the attack, and just how widespread the damage/fallout is. The attack very good cover, while everyone scrambles to limit exposure and not sure exactly what to look for.

What concerns me is lack of clear precedent for some equitable retaliation.

And if some equitable retaliation is designed would there be public support for it if it were to include conventional warfare in some proxy fight.

Much of the country has been told that China is the enemy and investigations into Russian interference in our country is a hoax.

If this is more work from the fancy bear folks this is problematic.

The US is a month away from a new president.

The new president’s authority to act against this attack continued to be undermined by the sitting president who just fired the head of cyber command because he said the election itself was secure. Not because it wasn’t, but because he said it was to the public!

I can not think of a more sophisticated and long term military intelligence operation than the epic we are witnessing right now.

The United States could not be in a weaker position than now.

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

#177

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Considering the OPM hack under the predecessor provided information on every person with a security clearance, I don't think it is quite fair to blame one as this sadly seems to be par for the course. I'm sure the incoming octogenarian will understand the series of tubes better...

Good to know the buck doesn't stop at the presidency anymore. Guess it's just a free for all.

When did it ever stop at the presidency?

Re: Nuclear weapons agency breached amid massive cyber onslaught

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, what concerns me is the sophistication of the attack, and just how widespread the damage/fallout is. The attack very good cover, while everyone scrambles to limit exposure and not sure exactly what to look for.

What concerns me is lack of clear precedent for some equitable retaliation. And if some equitable retaliation is designed would there be public support for it if it were to include conventional warfare in some proxy fight. Much of the country has been told that China is the enemy and investigations into Russian interference in our country is a hoax. If this is more work from the fancy bear folks this is problematic.…

Retaliation for a cyber attack, with cyber attacks, sanctions, or military operations could set a dangerous precedent. Don't forget that the US and allies have been behind many cyber attacks, including against Russia and China ( and probably were involved with Stuxnet against Iran). Do you want Russia, China, Iran, etc. to retaliate against US cyber attacks? Because that's how you get an escalation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare_in_the_United_S...

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