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Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by staunch »

old-gregg wrote: post #19
staunch wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SES is extremely easy, and I seriously doubt any claims that they're more reliable/faster than what Amazon is offering. What kind of intelligent processing are they offering? In the use case of turning a reply into a comment the hard work is not receiving and parsing the email, it's authenticating the user/adding the comment to the database. I'm a potential customer who just doesn't see the value proposition. I'm sur…

Staunch: there will always be guys who want to do everything themselves. But we're selling to folks who have other things to worry about. Risking to re-type our own front-page, I'll go ahead and give you some tips for how Mailgun can be useful: Once a message is sent, what happens to it? We give you searchable SMTP logs: see if some crazy admin guy in Canada misconfigured greylisting (because he likes to do everythin…

I don't like to do everything myself. I'm actually very inclined to outsource stuff like this.

It doesn't sound very interesting for sending email. The receiving part is more interesting.

Still, it doesn't seem like it would save me enough time to warrant implementing your API, dealing with yet-another-service, and paying.

I don't mean to be too negative. One of my favorite kinds of businesses is taking something every company already does and "productizing" it.

Maybe I'll get tired of dealing with it myself and sign up. Either way, good luck!

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by cubes »

staunch wrote: post #14
paul wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sending and receiving email is easy, unless you want it to work reliably, do intelligent processing, etc.

SES is extremely easy, and I seriously doubt any claims that they're more reliable/faster than what Amazon is offering. What kind of intelligent processing are they offering? In the use case of turning a reply into a comment the hard work is not receiving and parsing the email, it's authenticating the user/adding the comment to the database. I'm a potential customer who just doesn't see the value proposition. I'm sur…

SES is extremely easy. Unless you actually care about deliverability. Deliverability on the modern internet is hard. SES does not handle this. If Mailgun handles deliverability well, that alone is worth the price. Making it programmable is awesome.

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by lftl »

old-gregg wrote: post #28
jsdalton wrote: post #18

Would somebody care to sell me on why this is superior to SendGrid or Amazon Simple Email Service? (Or perhaps what use cases it better serves.)

Actually we do "everything email": Detailed searchable mail logs: we actually tell you what happens to every single one of your messages - nobody else is that brave! Incoming email push - and our parsing/cleanup of incoming traffic is pretty impressive - if it's time to self-promote, it's now. And our incoming email handling if flexible: we do routing/forwarding, similar to Rails/Django routes. Storing/hosting your e…

This a completely off-topic and pendantic, but I just thought I'd throw this out there. On this page:

http://mailgun.net/pricing

I personally have a hard time parsing how much money $0.5 is. I'm assuming you're charging 50 cents per 1K messages. My mind groks $0.50 per 1K messages, much more easily.

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by old-gregg »

lftl wrote: post #33
old-gregg wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually we do "everything email": Detailed searchable mail logs: we actually tell you what happens to every single one of your messages - nobody else is that brave! Incoming email push - and our parsing/cleanup of incoming traffic is pretty impressive - if it's time to self-promote, it's now. And our incoming email handling if flexible: we do routing/forwarding, similar to Rails/Django routes. Storing/hosting your e…

This a completely off-topic and pendantic, but I just thought I'd throw this out there. On this page: http://mailgun.net/pricing I personally have a hard time parsing how much money $0.5 is. I'm assuming you're charging 50 cents per 1K messages. My mind groks $0.50 per 1K messages, much more easily.

Great feedback, we'll fix this - thank you!

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by rokhayakebe »

jsdalton wrote: post #18

Would somebody care to sell me on why this is superior to SendGrid or Amazon Simple Email Service? (Or perhaps what use cases it better serves.)

Does a product have to always be superior to its competitors in order to exist?

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by X-Istence »

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #26
handrake wrote: post #22

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I can see that on the top of their list already. Somebody has to fix this problem with less-complicated solution than PGP.

I'm working on it. :) We hope to have a private alpha start the end of next month.

I am definitely interested in this, do you have any website up yet? Any possible way to get onto that private alpha? ;-)

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by staunch »

cubes wrote: post #32
staunch wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SES is extremely easy, and I seriously doubt any claims that they're more reliable/faster than what Amazon is offering. What kind of intelligent processing are they offering? In the use case of turning a reply into a comment the hard work is not receiving and parsing the email, it's authenticating the user/adding the comment to the database. I'm a potential customer who just doesn't see the value proposition. I'm sur…

SES is extremely easy. Unless you actually care about deliverability. Deliverability on the modern internet is hard. SES does not handle this. If Mailgun handles deliverability well, that alone is worth the price. Making it programmable is awesome.

Amazon implements trust-based dynamic throttling and only allows verified email addresses. I don't think anyone else does both.

Where's your evidence that anyone has better deliverability than SES?

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by jsdalton »

rokhayakebe wrote: post #35
jsdalton wrote: post #18

Would somebody care to sell me on why this is superior to SendGrid or Amazon Simple Email Service? (Or perhaps what use cases it better serves.)

Does a product have to always be superior to its competitors in order to exist?

Nope. I was genuinely curious whether and how Mailgun was superior to those products.

Re: Mailgun (YC W11) Raises $1.1 Million For Its "Twilio For Email"

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Post by X-Istence »

old-gregg wrote: post #7
rishi wrote: post #6

"Let your users leave comments, answer simple questions, upload data as attachments and interact with each other using their email clients." Q: So a customer can reply back to one of your emails and it turns into a comment? thanks

With a little bit of coding on your part - yes.

Off topic: Is your username a reference to BBC Three's Old Gregg "episode"? I sure hope so. =)
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