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Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by qz2 »

vlkr wrote: post #9
cageface wrote: post #4

Just because there is now a multi-billion-dollar industry based on the abject betrayal of our privacy doesn’t mean the sociopaths who built it have any right whatsoever to continue getting away with it. This is fair enough as it goes but remember it's coming from one of the biggest cheerleaders of a company that became the richest in the world while taking away user freedoms we used to take for granted on general pur…

You can easily replace your apple products, but not your social network apps. all your friends have to switch, too

Actually at this point I don't know anyone who uses social media applications. My kids, well teenagers, use iMessage and SMS and coordinate on Discord (that's not really a social network). My wife uses word of mouth and local referrals to run her hair business with communication via SMS/iMessage/email and a bookings app she has. All my friends use use email and iMessage. My parents both use email and/or SMS too.

The only thing I use any form of social media for is signing up to Twitter to tag Royal Mail or Hermes delivery in complaints about twice a year because they actually listen if you shitpost in public.

I see society functioning exactly how it did before if in 30 seconds time social media disappeared off the face of the planet.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by 3327 »

Screw Facebook. Really F-them, and all the employee's that choose to waste their lives there.

If you know any - tell them what you feel and don't be shy. They should know.

Facebook has done nothing good for society, Nothing good for the internet, nothing good for the truth, facts. And Nothing good for San Francisco or the ecosystem.

As soon as developers had something going - Facebook killed it. Go ask around.

Not politically correct? GO ahead down vote - as if make believe karma on HN is worth more than open opinions.

There are many like me and many here that I know feel the same about this company. It lost its soul and became twisted along the way. May God have Mercy on them.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by cageface »

vlkr wrote: post #9
cageface wrote: post #4

Just because there is now a multi-billion-dollar industry based on the abject betrayal of our privacy doesn’t mean the sociopaths who built it have any right whatsoever to continue getting away with it. This is fair enough as it goes but remember it's coming from one of the biggest cheerleaders of a company that became the richest in the world while taking away user freedoms we used to take for granted on general pur…

You can easily replace your apple products, but not your social network apps. all your friends have to switch, too

This is getting harder and harder as Apple’s ecosystem becomes more comprehensive and more integrated. There are benefits of course but it’s pretty sticky.

OTOH I dumped Facebook years ago and haven’t missed it for a second. WhatsApp has proven a lot harder to wean off of since my friends refuse to switch.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by aemreunal »

obilgic wrote: post #5

Whenever they want to make a statement, they use newspaper ads, what does it tell you about FB Ads?

I think Gruber's analysis is quite correct:

    Full-page issue messaging ads are about reaching very specific demographics 
    in a conspicuous way. But in today’s world, it’s kind of transparent whom 
    Facebook is targeting here: old white politicians.
so I don't think those two are related.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by collyw »

cageface wrote: post #13
vlkr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily replace your apple products, but not your social network apps. all your friends have to switch, too

This is getting harder and harder as Apple’s ecosystem becomes more comprehensive and more integrated. There are benefits of course but it’s pretty sticky. OTOH I dumped Facebook years ago and haven’t missed it for a second. WhatsApp has proven a lot harder to wean off of since my friends refuse to switch.

I understand wanting to get rid of FB, but whats your reason for whatsapp? Whatsapp is end to end encrypted, so they can't get access to your messages, no? Is it just that they are owned by FB, or do you have greater security / privacy concerns that I am missing?

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by izacus »

vlkr wrote: post #9
cageface wrote: post #4

Just because there is now a multi-billion-dollar industry based on the abject betrayal of our privacy doesn’t mean the sociopaths who built it have any right whatsoever to continue getting away with it. This is fair enough as it goes but remember it's coming from one of the biggest cheerleaders of a company that became the richest in the world while taking away user freedoms we used to take for granted on general pur…

You can easily replace your apple products, but not your social network apps. all your friends have to switch, too

Apple products have social media baked into them - and one that cannot be used on other devices. Remember iMessage exists?

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by fakedang »

3327 wrote: post #12

Screw Facebook. Really F-them, and all the employee's that choose to waste their lives there. If you know any - tell them what you feel and don't be shy. They should know. Facebook has done nothing good for society, Nothing good for the internet, nothing good for the truth, facts. And Nothing good for San Francisco or the ecosystem. As soon as developers had something going - Facebook killed it. Go ask around. Not po…

Lost its soul and became twisted along the way? Not at all, Facebook was always like that from the start. Check its first pitch deck - they clearly mention classifying (college) users by their demographics and interests to advertise to them.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by jari_mustonen »

> But in today’s world, it’s kind of transparent whom Facebook is targeting here: old white politicians.

Is the word "white" here really that important. Is is true that within this issue there is an adversarial relationship between races and people of different skin color?

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by bozzcl »

cageface wrote: post #13
vlkr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily replace your apple products, but not your social network apps. all your friends have to switch, too

This is getting harder and harder as Apple’s ecosystem becomes more comprehensive and more integrated. There are benefits of course but it’s pretty sticky. OTOH I dumped Facebook years ago and haven’t missed it for a second. WhatsApp has proven a lot harder to wean off of since my friends refuse to switch.

Same situation with WhatsApp. It's deeply engrained in my home country's social groups. One group of friends followed me to Telegram, along with my direct family... but my more distant relatives and other groups of friends didn't bite. The other difficult one was Facebook Messenger.

Guess I'm banking on people finally realizing how creepy Facebook is. But since some of my friends have abandoned Facebook in favor of Instagram, of all places... guess I'm playing the long game.

Re: Facebook Takes Out Newspaper Ads to Attack Apple's Strengthening iOS Privacy

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Post by bozzcl »

collyw wrote: post #15
cageface wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is getting harder and harder as Apple’s ecosystem becomes more comprehensive and more integrated. There are benefits of course but it’s pretty sticky. OTOH I dumped Facebook years ago and haven’t missed it for a second. WhatsApp has proven a lot harder to wean off of since my friends refuse to switch.

I understand wanting to get rid of FB, but whats your reason for whatsapp? Whatsapp is end to end encrypted, so they can't get access to your messages, no? Is it just that they are owned by FB, or do you have greater security / privacy concerns that I am missing?

Same boat here. I dumped WhatsApp mostly because it's owned by Facebook, which I consider a bit of a privacy risk by itself. On top of that, the app requests access to lots of permissions I don't understand the need for.

Some examples: find accounts on the device, view WiFi connections, retrieve running apps, use biometric hardware.

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