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Bitcoin breaks above $20k

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I am NOT a fan of Bitcoin, but... Watch a real-time visualization of the global Bitcoin transaction flow, as it is happening right now: https://dailyblockchain.github.io/ Each square is a bitcoin address (like a cryptographic public key) Each graph component is a transaction. The components appear as transactions are broadcast into the bitcoin P2P network (but before they are verified and committed to the blockchain)…

1. Majority seems to be two accounts consolidating into one 2. Not a lot of interconnection

Re: Bitcoin breaks above $20k

#123

Let's pay tribute to the very first Hacker News thread about Bitcoin back in May, 2009 with this classic comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=599852 > Well this is an exceptionally cute idea, but there is absolutely no way that anyone is going to have any faith in this currency.

A decade latter and it's still a hobby currency. Price is not a sole indicator of faith in a currency.

Re: Bitcoin breaks above $20k

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What's the carbon footprint of BTC like these days? Has any progress been made on mitigating this fundamental design issue?

Every day, about 900 bitcoins are mined. So computing power for about 900*20k = $1.8m per day is "wasted". The more the price of bitcoin, the more energy is going to be used. Every 4 years, the amount of bitcoin created per day is divided by 2.

Re: Bitcoin breaks above $20k

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Just a question, isn't all criticism against bitcoin applicable to gold? Money/Currency/Value in general can't be reduced or derived from first principles. You always have to take into account human nature, economic activity, and most unfortunately: psychology. So all criticism about how bitcoin inherently being pointless, sounds like off-tune. I want good reasons to/NOT-to buy in. First-world country citizens kind o…

the energy consumption is my biggest criticism, so the answer is "no" (even though you try to sidestep that). buying a pack of gum with bitcoin could power a whole house for 2 months, that's awful and irresponsible.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest following ethereum and it's founder Vitalik. He's explicitly said things like, "If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. Though I still have a lot of hope that the community can steer in the right direction." He has worked with the UN world food program, and posts a lot of material on voting, economic fairness, and social aspects of blockchain in gene…

Ethereum removed the 100M soft cap on EIP 669. This was quietly slipped through with no debate. ETH shouldn't be trusted.

Can you provide evidence of no debate, and reasons on why the soft cap is a bad idea when transactions burn eth anyways and the eth inflation rate is around 4% per year, and slated to drop to 0.5%-2.0% with the transition to ETH 2.0?

Re: Bitcoin breaks above $20k

#129

The appreciation and depreciation of Bitcoin is one of the things I don’t really understand. I get currency, capital flow, and asset to capital conversions. But for Bitcoin, where exactly is the value? Why is holding one Bitcoin appreciating so much faster compared to the USD? Is it because us as a society is perceiving the value of Bitcoin to appreciate (even though it’s illogical IMO to think so)?

You need to understand the point of money in the first place. For most of human history economies were structured around trade without money. You would trade spices for cattle and things like that. Once we started mining gold and silver it became convenient to say, hey, these metals are useful for certain things but they're also very convenient to use as a medium for trade. So instead of you always needing another asset to trade, you can sell your asset for gold or silver, and then later on you can trade your gold or silver for a different asset. So let's say you wanted to sell your cow badly but there were no spices to buy yet with it. Well now you could sell the cow for gold and then later when a new shipment of spices came in you could use some or all of that gold to buy the spices. Hence money was born.

This is basically how all money works, as a medium for productivity and assets.

Enter modern governments who print paper currency because it's far more convenient than gold but for the most part it was the same principle. When the US was still on the gold standard the idea was that the US government stored all the gold and any US dollar technically represented a share of gold in the US vaults. In fact if you were a foreign country with USD you could redeem your USD for gold. We abandoned the gold standard ~1971 and started printing fiat money which isn't technically backed by anything. There's a bunch of controversy around this but the undeniable fact is that now the Fed can and does manipulate the USD to cause inflation and deflation at certain times.

So why is holding one Bitcoin appreciating so much faster than the USD? Because the Fed is TRYING to cause inflation with the USD. They've said themselves that they are trying to target about 2% inflation I believe, (I could be wrong on that target). You do this by increasing the supply of USD whereas Bitcoin has a fixed supply so it's inherently deflationary.

So is it illogical to place value in Bitcoin? Maybe but the same can be said of the USD, moreso. Not only is it not backed by anything, it's inherently inflationary and loses value over time. Bitcoin doesn't. So if you get a paycheck for being a productive worker and you want a medium to store that value of productivity Bitcoin seems like a logical medium to store it in so that you know later on you can withdraw and it won't have lost it's value to inflation. Ofc, it could lose its value in other ways but that's the same with any asset.

Re: Bitcoin breaks above $20k

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest following ethereum and it's founder Vitalik. He's explicitly said things like, "If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. Though I still have a lot of hope that the community can steer in the right direction." He has worked with the UN world food program, and posts a lot of material on voting, economic fairness, and social aspects of blockchain in gene…

Ethereum removed the 100M soft cap on EIP 669. This was quietly slipped through with no debate. ETH shouldn't be trusted.

Inflation is good for currencies / anything that's meant to be used.
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