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CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by gambiting »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #605
gambiting wrote: post #588

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>>It’s a strange mindset to think that something should just be free. When it comes to healthcare? Yes, it should absolutely be free to the recepient. I don't know why it's such a strange concept to you - afer all, Americans are also used to receiving certain services for free - you don't have to pay the police for coming to help you, or the fire brigade for that matter. To me it's the same thing - if your house on f…

> When it comes to healthcare? Yes, it should absolutely be free to the recepient. Medical care requires the labor of others. You have no right to it, nor should you put a gun to their head and demand it.

Yeah, no, hard disagree. Every citizen should have the right to free healthcare, and it should be provided for everyone, regardless of any other factors.

Roads require labour of others to build and maintain, yet every American would object if they suddenly had to pay to use them to get anywhere - how is that any different. You're just moving the line elsewhere, but the exact same principles exist in America too.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by thepete2 »

tester34 wrote: post #485
thepete2 wrote: post #160

"we started with a score of 70, but now it’s 79. If you filter those who have played 10 hours or more, the score is 85 –so the more you play the more enjoyment you feel." Lying with statistics 101. It's obviously impossible that people who didn't enjoy the game played less than 10 hours

did he actually lie? he also stated that _overall_ score that includes everyone went from 70 to 79.

Maybe lying is the wrong word. But the conclusion that "the longer you play the more you enjoy the game" is very misleading.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by anonunivgrad »

gambiting wrote: post #611
agensaequivocum wrote: post #605

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When it comes to healthcare? Yes, it should absolutely be free to the recepient. Medical care requires the labor of others. You have no right to it, nor should you put a gun to their head and demand it.

Yeah, no, hard disagree. Every citizen should have the right to free healthcare, and it should be provided for everyone, regardless of any other factors. Roads require labour of others to build and maintain, yet every American would object if they suddenly had to pay to use them to get anywhere - how is that any different. You're just moving the line elsewhere, but the exact same principles exist in America too.

Toll roads exist.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by pier25 »

Jarolis wrote: post #292
pier25 wrote: post #127

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> Combat is like someone took Mass Effect 1 and combined it with a bunch of Bethesda bugs from Fallout and Skyrim. Totally agree with you. In terms of gunplay, there are ancient PS3/Xbox 360 era games that are so much better. Deus Ex HR, Far Cry 3, MGS IV, Bioshock, etc. Edit: This gameplay from almost 10 years ago is way better than Cyberpunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3eszAJWHKY

And yet I'd rather play Cyberpunk than any of these games. The combat is good. It's not great or amazing, but it's good and is fun and satisfying. But gunplay isn't why I bought Cyberpunk, so this idea that because some PS3 games that I have zero interest in have "better" gameplay, Cyberpunk isn't worth playing seems insane to me.

I didn't say it's not worth playing. The story bits are absolutely fantastic.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by gambiting »

anonunivgrad wrote: post #613
gambiting wrote: post #611

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no, hard disagree. Every citizen should have the right to free healthcare, and it should be provided for everyone, regardless of any other factors. Roads require labour of others to build and maintain, yet every American would object if they suddenly had to pay to use them to get anywhere - how is that any different. You're just moving the line elsewhere, but the exact same principles exist in America too.

Toll roads exist.

And in countries with public healthcare private hospitals exist too.

The existence of toll roads in a country where 99.9% of roads are free to use has no impact on your ability to get anywhere, just like the existence of private hospitals doesn't change the fact that every citizen can receive free care from public hospitals in countries with public healthcare.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by pier25 »

esyir wrote: post #441
pier25 wrote: post #113

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My experience on a mid range PC has been good in terms of performance and bugs. The game has some truly amazing aspects such as writing, characters, music, etc, but IMO it falls flat in terms of gameplay. Gunplay, stealth, hacking, open world mechanics, driving... it's all very mediocre even poor at times.

That sounds like the Witcher 3 to me. Great art, great story, great character/music. I hated the gameplay. I don't know why, but it felt horrendously clunky, even after the rework.

I agree, although as clunky as it is, I enjoyed the combat in W3 more than 2077.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by pier25 »

Arelius wrote: post #257
pier25 wrote: post #104

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> So why did the management still decide to go ahead with the release this year? The game should have been delayed until Xmas 2021 but CDPR probably had contracts they couldn't break with Sony, Xbox, or maybe even Nvidia.

There may have been contract issues, but more likely the cost of an additional year of development vs getting holiday profit made a lot of the decision.

They could have released the PC version and wait a year or two to release to consoles. It's similar to what Rockstar did with RDR2.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by icedchai »

killtimeatwork wrote: post #482
icedchai wrote: post #180

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This happened to me back in the 90's. Company 1: The company went bankrupt, founder renamed the company, started a new company with the same name as the original, transferred some assets for pennies on the dollar. It later went public, but collapsed in the dot-com crash. Company 2: Company raised $50 million during the dot-com boom. After 5 or so years, it still did not have much revenue to speak of. After several do…

> Company 1: The company went bankrupt, founder renamed the company, started a new company with the same name as the original, transferred some assets for pennies on the dollar. It later went public, but collapsed in the dot-com crash. Is that legal? It looks like the CEO of the company willingly harmed the company's interest to enrich himself, which is basically fraud.

My understanding is that it was done in a legal manner. The majority of the investors were "friends" and had to give sign off. They got a smaller stake in the new venture and promise of larger returns, etc.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by acoard »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #605
gambiting wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>It’s a strange mindset to think that something should just be free. When it comes to healthcare? Yes, it should absolutely be free to the recepient. I don't know why it's such a strange concept to you - afer all, Americans are also used to receiving certain services for free - you don't have to pay the police for coming to help you, or the fire brigade for that matter. To me it's the same thing - if your house on f…

> When it comes to healthcare? Yes, it should absolutely be free to the recepient. Medical care requires the labor of others. You have no right to it, nor should you put a gun to their head and demand it.

A fair trial requires the labor of others, and I have a right to that. No guns to head involved.

Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)

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Post by anonunivgrad »

gambiting wrote: post #615
anonunivgrad wrote: post #613

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Toll roads exist.

And in countries with public healthcare private hospitals exist too. The existence of toll roads in a country where 99.9% of roads are free to use has no impact on your ability to get anywhere, just like the existence of private hospitals doesn't change the fact that every citizen can receive free care from public hospitals in countries with public healthcare.

I have another reply to you that engages with all of your points. Feel free to respond to that. As of now, you haven't given any principled reason for which services should be provided free by the government and which should not.
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