Facebook criticizes Apple’s iOS privacy changes with full-page newspaper ads

Post by hungryforcodes » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 3:40 PM UTC

ben_w wrote: post #42

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I had a minimal Facebook account that I wasn’t really using, so I deleted it. Before deleting, I downloaded the third party vendors that Facebook shared data with and was shocked. I almost am never logged in to Facebook and yet here was Home Depot, the company I get face wash from, etc all linked back to my account somehow, and I had no idea.

Are there any other stores near you that you could’ve used instead of Home Depot? The reason I’m suggesting in your particular case that this might have been a lucky guess rather than invasive Detective-Sherlock-type inference is that when I did the same to Twitter, I discovered that they thought I was interested in soccer (I’m not) and three languages I don’t speak and have never attempted to learn.

Post by ebetica0 » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 3:45 PM UTC

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Ugh. The more I think about this the more complicated it becomes. I think most people would be pretty ok saying "I'm a part of a classic car community on Facebook, so I get ads on Facebook for classic car things". I think people would be less ok with "I played a game on my phone while standing in an auto shop. Now I'm getting car ads on my news site because game accessed my location, shared with facebook, who then sh…

I don't mind that my ads are targeted based on my location, content of my messages, etc. ... What I mind is that nobody can assure who the buyers of my data are, or what they're really using it for. Facebook says "small businesses", but there are no guarantees it's not your government, a foreign government, your employer, your insurance company, a scammer, etc.

Post by bonoboTP » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

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But people already know Facebook and know the concepts (pages, comments, posts, users, profile pics, groups), so there's much less friction. To many people, "making a website" sounds like a big complicated scary thing that only big serious players do.

Yes, which is a situation begging for new entrants to make that scary thing easy.

Post by newbie578 » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 3:58 PM UTC

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I know my comment will get downvoted. But there's a lot of misconception about Facebook, and the other counter-arguments are worth mentioning too. Facebook does not sell our data, in fact, they keep it very secure. Facebook merely allows advertisers to target you based on your interests (which it learns from your activities). Advertisers cannot identify anyone, they just select categories for which they want their ad…

Facebook doesn’t sell your data, they sell your future behavior. Being identified the advertisers hasn’t been the point for years. Facebook knows that, so they make a righteous play by saying they keep it safe from advertisers. Facebook doesn’t sell your data, they sell your attention, and that’s much more valuable.

Post by theshrike79 » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 4:03 PM UTC

ebetica0 wrote: post #113

elondaits wrote: post #70

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I don't mind that my ads are targeted based on my location, content of my messages, etc. ... What I mind is that nobody can assure who the buyers of my data are, or what they're really using it for. Facebook says "small businesses", but there are no guarantees it's not your government, a foreign government, your employer, your insurance company, a scammer, etc.

But Facebook never sells the data itself, it only sells targeting capabilities. The government can only say "display this ad to people who fit these categories", but they can never see those identities.