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Facebook criticizes Apple’s iOS privacy changes with full-page newspaper ads

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Post by nalekberov »

robinhood wrote: post #36

Facebook is only interested in small businesses because of the revenues they can get from them. They don’t give a crap otherwise. I don’t like companies who pretend to protect others when in fact it’s just to protect them. This is simply dishonest. If they showed in the past that they were on the small business side, that would be a different story. But right now, Facebook as a company should not be allowed to surviv…

All the commercial ads “touching your heart” doesn’t follow the same strategy tho?

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Post by viktorcode »

kbos87 wrote: post #19

I have zero sympathy for Facebook. If they claim to care so much about small businesses, they should start by committing to change how they respond to any upstart social app that dares encroach on what they see as their territory. That being said - and it pains me to say this - but there is absolutely truth to the fact that the style of targeting now possible on FB & Instagram has enabled an entire world of very smal…

If a business exists solely due to the fact that general population isn't aware they are being tracked across the web, then it is game over.

No business built on unawareness is long term sustainable.

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Post by nalekberov »

kashprime wrote: post #35

I'm moving away from Android (after 10 years) to iOS for exactly this reason. Not much sympathy for FB on my end.

Been an iOS user for more than 7 years I can say it’s way better than Android in terms of privacy, but Apple is no better than other tech companies, building their own monopoly, killing competition, making their hardwares hard to repair and removing ability to replace batteries etc.

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Post by nlitened »

aminozuur wrote: post #44

I know my comment will get downvoted. But there's a lot of misconception about Facebook, and the other counter-arguments are worth mentioning too. Facebook does not sell our data, in fact, they keep it very secure. Facebook merely allows advertisers to target you based on your interests (which it learns from your activities). Advertisers cannot identify anyone, they just select categories for which they want their ad…

You're free to enable personalized ads (and tracking) in privacy settings though.

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Post by netsharc »

violetgarden wrote: post #37
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there are a lot of businesses that can exist by knowing everything about me. And, frankly, I think it's ok if they do... as long as they have my permission. The nice thing is that this is what this change does. It makes it more clear who, and what, is sharing information about me. A world where we have apps and websites that pop up with an alert "This website will share information about you with Facebook, e…

I had a minimal Facebook account that I wasn’t really using, so I deleted it. Before deleting, I downloaded the third party vendors that Facebook shared data with and was shocked. I almost am never logged in to Facebook and yet here was Home Depot, the company I get face wash from, etc all linked back to my account somehow, and I had no idea.

I use 1 email address for most online services (Facebook, and online shops), and I'm pretty sure the shops used my e-mail to look up my "ad profile" on FB.

I wonder if they match people through other ways, like name and ZIP code (with Facebook knowing your ZIP code through harvesting your location through their mobile apps), or even more sinisterly, if a friend uploaded their address book to Facebook/WhatsApp, and said friend has conveniently organized their address book to link your name and phone number to your Facebook profile -- the same phone number you gave Home Depot..

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Post by yalogin »

Two things here -

This only helps Apple and FB is showing that what apple is doing works. Apple is going to use this to show that their ecosystem provides a real service to the users.

Second, why is FB using newspaper ads? They should already know using their ad network which group of people is more likely to believe these lies and should target them instead. Or may be they should go to Cambridge analytics, if they haven’t already done so. This ad has crossed over into theshady realm for me.

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

officeplant wrote: post #57
kashprime wrote: post #35

I'm moving away from Android (after 10 years) to iOS for exactly this reason. Not much sympathy for FB on my end.

As a general tech enthusiast I jump back and forth between both ecosystems fairly often, but I have to wonder what's the point? If I'm not running any social media applications what do I have to fear from google not yet having this level of privacy toggling.

Just because you aren't running Facebook doesn't mean they aren't in your device. Many apps and sites contain Facebook libraries for logins, sharing, advertising, and analytics. If they include any of those, you are automatically sending data back to Facebook. With the way things are currently setup, Facebook can easily tie your activity in one app to your activity in another app. And as we have known for years now, Facebook creates "shadow profiles" for users it can't identify and attempts to tie those shadow profiles to real life people through the actions of their friends on Facebook and its other products.

So even if you use no social media whatsoever, Facebook is still compiling data on you. And this change in iOS will greatly limit their ability to do so (or at least increase the work necessary to accomplish it).

Frankly, it has me considering switching to iOS as well after running Android for over a decade.

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Post by elondaits »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #60
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there are a lot of businesses that can exist by knowing everything about me. And, frankly, I think it's ok if they do... as long as they have my permission. The nice thing is that this is what this change does. It makes it more clear who, and what, is sharing information about me. A world where we have apps and websites that pop up with an alert "This website will share information about you with Facebook, e…

Ugh. The more I think about this the more complicated it becomes. I think most people would be pretty ok saying "I'm a part of a classic car community on Facebook, so I get ads on Facebook for classic car things". I think people would be less ok with "I played a game on my phone while standing in an auto shop. Now I'm getting car ads on my news site because game accessed my location, shared with facebook, who then sh…

I don't mind that my ads are targeted based on my location, content of my messages, etc.

... What I mind is that nobody can assure who the buyers of my data are, or what they're really using it for. Facebook says "small businesses", but there are no guarantees it's not your government, a foreign government, your employer, your insurance company, a scammer, etc.

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