As said in the tagline, your service is grouped with others that serve _disposable_ emails. Safe use cases for services providing disposable emails are somewhat slim. If you sign up using a disposable email, and later the account ends up being less disposable than you thought, for example because it contains some personal data from you, then you're taking a huge risk in not either using an email service that's too-bi…
Thank you for the feedback. Yes, I agree that it can be a disadvantage to be grouped with disposable email addresses, we have aliases that are a decade old that are still forwarding emails. With respect to the longevity of the company, it makes a healthy profit and due to my brother's great sysops work it is fairly low maintenance except when we're making improvements. Also, our friends and family all use it, they'd…
Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
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Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#92My second impression was when the obnoxious cookie manager pop-over attacked me (ten times worse than having a site plant trivial cookies on my computer without my permission). These of course are increasingly common, they're a plague on the Internet.
So I engaged with the cookie notification monster, wanting it to go away. I clicked on show details and immediately regretted it. What is all of that shit? I've been building complex applications online since the mid 1990s and my brain instantly spun around looking at that: I have to actually burn my time to figure out all those layers of cookie crap and what they all do or mean.
I immediately abandoned your site at that point. I'm not spending the time. It was annoying as a pop-over, it was doubly annoying to engage with.
To make matters worse, your site hung multiple times when trying to load it due to consent.cookiebot.com causing a loading delay. Ditch that pile of gargage immediately for a more simple cookie control engagement approach.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
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#94Definitely double the prices right now. Since there is a free version that is generous, it won’t be “selling out”. I’m sure it felt right back years ago, but think of how much the product has improved since then. You can grandfather all current customers in (or just a year) if it makes it feel better. I am impressed by that video from 99designs. How much did you spend? Do you have a link to their profile?
We'll definitely give pricing some thought, you're right that it's probably time to revisit. Re: the video, actually now that I look back we used a company called xp-studios.com - we just provided the script. I believe it was around $3k but this was back in 2013.
You mentioned wanting to play with paid ads. I think you'll quickly find that your current LTV is way too low to justify any campaigns (unless your enterprise plan is converting like crazy?)
(Unpopular opinion) Also consider experimenting with killing your free plan if your goal is to increase revenue. I'm not saying you definitely should kill it long-term - just experiment with removing the option in an A/B test and see how it impacts conversions on paid plans. Freemium normally benefits products with network effects. It's not totally obvious to me how your product might benefit from that.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#95I pay for Google Workspace, have a handful of domains configured, a single "real" user account and a catch-all rule that forward all mail to that real account.
Other than inertia and pricing (I have >10 domains, so I'd fall in the enterprise tier), there's one key feature that keeps me from switching: I can set up custom routing rules.
For example, when I RSVP'd for a wedding last year with a plus one, I set up a custom rule for that alias so that my plus one also got any updates.
I suspect you could build a significantly better UX around that, where someone could link additional recipients to an alias with some sort of special reply to the email, see that those other recipients are included when receiving messages (as a reminder they're "linked" to the alias), etc. I'm probably over thinking it, but I'd love to be able to somehow react to an email with "+friend@example.com for 2 hours". (Example use case: you place a food delivery order for a group of friends and want them all to get the rest of the confirmation emails until the meal is actually delivered.)
Random ideas:
It'd be interesting to have an easy way to "bind" aliases to a domain/sender. Most of the time when I invent a new alias, I only expect it to be used by whoever sends the first message to it.
It'd also be interesting to be able to have a "snooze" feature for an alias. I use this a lot on social media (e.g., Facebook makes it easy to say "don't show me anything from this person for 30 days") when I don't want to totally unfollow someone. I think I'd do that with some merchants' emails.
Maybe these could take the form of message headers that get added? That way, it's easy to configure a client-side skip-the-inbox rule (or mark it as low priority or whatever), so it's not in your face, while ensuring you can still search for stuff you think you might have missed.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Additionally, they could take advantage of email signature - the hotmail growth hack method.
Could you elaborate?
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#97Right now I have an O365 account that lets me create unlimited (I think) aliases, the issue is how annoying it is to create them and then manage them. Yahoo has a similar service, but again you need to create the alias first, your solution of accept all, deny later is much smarter.
My only question about price brackets is I don't have a great understanding of how much bandwidth I use monthly, or even how many emails I'd funnel through your service, not to mention we're kinda at the mercy of the senders, if they send a lot/ or send large emails, we end up needing to move up a bracket. On avg do your Premium users get close to the limit?
Which brings me to my next question: what happens if I do indeed use up my entire bandwidth allotment for the month? do emails just get bounced? do I just get upgraded automatically?
I get where your coming from by charging for bandwidth, from your perspective you're aligning your costs with the price.
When I tried to sign up, the username I wanted was taken, but the error message wasn't obvious and I was left wondering what happened until I saw it above the signup button. For the record I had ublock enabled and it was blocking 15 things, so it's possible it caught something... you might wanna look into that.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#98Love the idea, I'm sure I'm not the only person who's thought about this pain point and somehow didn't come up with the elegant solution you did. Right now I have an O365 account that lets me create unlimited (I think) aliases, the issue is how annoying it is to create them and then manage them. Yahoo has a similar service, but again you need to create the alias first, your solution of accept all, deny later is much…
Most people don't hit the bandwidth limit unless they're really using 33mail a lot. I've been using 33mail heavily for a decade and my monthly usage is 40MB which puts me in the premium tier, but I'm near the top percentile of bandwidth usage.
The premium tier also has a lot of other benefits, like custom domains and anonymous replies - so lots of users upgrade to it without being close to the bandwidth limit.
If you do hit the limit we'll first make sure that it's not just a temporary spike, and then we'll send a few warning emails.
At this point you can entire upgrade or block some aliases you don't need that are using a lot of bandwidth, this is fairly easy to do in our UI.
It is extremely rare that we've had to block a user due to excessive bandwidth usage, in fact I'm not sure we've ever had to do that.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#99However I’m probably going to pivot away to email infrastructure because:
A) The market for paid users is tiny (when we had free users we had 1000s of sign ups, but they were mostly setting up spam accounts and would never convert)
B) Most companies will mark you as a temp email address and block sign ups, effectively making it useless
It’s frustrating as it’s a great idea. I think the best implementation is Apple IDs version, as they don’t need to care about A and have the reputation to solve B.
Great job getting to 8k MRR and good luck. I think 33mail (or idbloc) would be awesome if integrated with a password manager, might be a good place for you to find new growth.
Re: Show HN: After 10 years my side project has hit $8k/mo in revenue
#100One suggestion would be to better advertise new features to existing users - I was going to suggest adding 2FA authentication, and went for a quick check on my account, and it was already available :-)