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Re: Farewell, Periscope

#61
My main use of Periscope was to watch live football (not the American one) matches. Going to miss that!

The part of the world where I live sports subscription fees are simply too high and controlled by duopoly of old school companies. On Periscope, it was great to have some good person point their phone camera to a large screen TV and watch the match together with many others on chat.

Thanks Periscope for letting me enjoy live action of a few El Clásicos!

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#62
IMO Periscope missed the boat purely because of lack of marketing. The only reason I know of its existence is because Scott Adams uses it daily (or used to) for his political commentary on Coffee with Scott Adams. Aella_Girl just discovered you could live stream on Twitter, and that feature is, as far as I know, backed by Periscope.

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#64
post #36

This, I suppose, is unexpected. It reflects a similar fate of a lot of technology plays that grew fast. I would like to reflect however on this comment in the article -- "The truth is that the Periscope app is in an unsustainable maintenance-mode state, and has been for a while. Over the past couple of years, we’ve seen declining usage and know that the cost to support the app will only continue to go up over time."…

> If you are an engineer and you start moving up into senior leadership roles, understand that this is your job Product wants new features and new products, and they want them now. Sales wants new features and new products, and they want them yesterday. Finance people want everything to be cheap, but since most engineers have no idea how to prove to them with actual hard data that it's cheaper in the long run ship fe…

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Re: Farewell, Periscope

#65

This, I suppose, is unexpected. It reflects a similar fate of a lot of technology plays that grew fast. I would like to reflect however on this comment in the article -- "The truth is that the Periscope app is in an unsustainable maintenance-mode state, and has been for a while. Over the past couple of years, we’ve seen declining usage and know that the cost to support the app will only continue to go up over time."…

> 5 years after acquisition

Similar timeline with the Vine acquisition and subsequent dismemberment, except Twitter announced Vine's discontinuation after 4 years rather than 5.

> and NOT retire the technical debt?

I would be surprised if this were the honest reason, at least more surprised than I'd be were it any other web giant, mostly because Twitter seems to have a mature grasp on why an average tenure of 2 years is insane for an engineering job and attempts to avoid the problems you mentioned. I reckon Twitter had motivations that simply don't scan well with people who enjoy using a product of yours and don't want to see it quashed.

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#66
I remember in 2015 when Meerkat launched. I liked it and everybody thought it would be the next big thing. People were starting to do very creative things with it.

But Meerkat was not to be. You see Twitter had bought a competitor for $86 million that had yet to launch called Periscope.

Meerkat spread quickly through the use of Twitter. But when Twitter launched Periscope (which I always thought was the inferior product) and cut off Meerkat's Twitter access in effect torpedoing it. Twitter bought a previous short video startup previously (can't remember the name) only to kill it too.

I would have liked to see what Meerkat might have been.

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#67
post #66

I remember in 2015 when Meerkat launched. I liked it and everybody thought it would be the next big thing. People were starting to do very creative things with it. But Meerkat was not to be. You see Twitter had bought a competitor for $86 million that had yet to launch called Periscope. Meerkat spread quickly through the use of Twitter. But when Twitter launched Periscope (which I always thought was the inferior prod…

... and then Periscope got buried by Instagram live and YouTube anyway. Hard to see a lesson besides “big guys win”

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#68
Twitter seems to keep failing at these acquisitions. Hence we can give Zuck some credit for the continued success of Instagram, WhatsApp and Occulus.

If Twitter has been successful with Vine and Periscope, they would have had successes as big as TikTok and Zoom.

Ironically, there would be calls to break-up Twitter today.

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#69
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter’s standalone app for live video streaming.

It hasn't been Twitter's until Twitter bought it a few years back. It's yet another one of the acquire - erase stories deserving a spot on Our Incredible Journey blog. [1] https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

It was acquired before launch

Re: Farewell, Periscope

#70
post #36

This, I suppose, is unexpected. It reflects a similar fate of a lot of technology plays that grew fast. I would like to reflect however on this comment in the article -- "The truth is that the Periscope app is in an unsustainable maintenance-mode state, and has been for a while. Over the past couple of years, we’ve seen declining usage and know that the cost to support the app will only continue to go up over time."…

> If you are an engineer and you start moving up into senior leadership roles, understand that this is your job Product wants new features and new products, and they want them now. Sales wants new features and new products, and they want them yesterday. Finance people want everything to be cheap, but since most engineers have no idea how to prove to them with actual hard data that it's cheaper in the long run ship fe…

Exactly right. Thank you for writing this. I’m in a similar position, where I’m responsible for reducing tech debt, reducing internal operating costs, while ensuring the infrastructure still operates, and while being responsible for testing and pushing out releases on time. With 4 people on my team.

If we dropped every new feature today and just focused on tech debt, it would take us months to catch up. But in the meantime, the show must go on, so we just continue accumulating debt. Nobody in engineering, nobody in sales or product management even has the power to stop the madness - this is all driven from the customers. And it gets worse if you are a b2c business or provide services to a government or two - you just don’t have much wiggle room.

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