I find it somewhat funny that this is on HN just today. Today's big sur update obviously did something that had caused the trash can mac pro to again be able to output non-choppy audio while doing useful work...
4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
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#42It's nice to have options on Windows 10 and a choice of GPU and driver vendors.
My Windows 10 installation forcibly rebooted to install updates right in the middle of a 10+ hour overnight render.
Personally, I'd prefer the system repeatedly prompt the user to restart to apply security updates (of which almost every update contains these days) instead of automatic restarts. It does try to apply those during what it believes are not "active hours", but it is not a perfect system.
Until that happens, consider setting your active hours manually in the Update & Security -> Windows Update settings panel. The update system is designed to avoid automatic restarts during active hours.
You can also pause updates for a period of time as well when you know that you don't want your system disrupted overnight.
I empathize with your frustration around the timing and I would encourage you to file feedback asking for more control over when updates happen.
Re: 4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
#43Even before Big Sur, the output to external monitors on MPBs was buggy as hell. My 2019 one wakes up from sleep, and its a 50/50 chance on the external monitor output working, causing me to have to unplug and replug the cable to get it to output.
Mine started doing that and became really annoying!
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#44It's nice to have options on Windows 10 and a choice of GPU and driver vendors.
My Windows 10 installation forcibly rebooted to install updates right in the middle of a 10+ hour overnight render.
I can't believe this is a thing. I recently switched back to Windows after deciding I wanted to play around with VR development (and honestly, get back into gaming) and was horrified to see a notice telling me my computer was going to reboot itself in one minute, with no way to abort.
I was right in the middle of something, and my first instinct was to Google how to stop the damn reboot. Of course, my computer was already rebooting by then.
I now know to turn on the setting to postpone updates for a month. But wow, I can't believe such unbelievably hostile UX is the out of the box experience.
(Also, side note, I'm pleasantly surprised at how robust and hassle free the Windows experience has otherwise become. I may even prefer this laptop to my MacBook, which I never thought I'd find myself thinking in a million years.)
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a Windows 10 Pro installation.
Can you not schedule updates on Pro? Or change the option to not automatically reboot?
You can make it not reboot with group policies, not commonly known though - most people try the registry stuff which doesn't seem to work consistently. Been running Win10 Pro for a couple years, never had a single unwanted reboot, once went nearly a year without doing a single update.
Specifically, in group policy:
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > "Configure Automatic Updates" and "No auto-restart with logged-on users for scheduled automatic update installations"
Re: 4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
#46It's nice to have options on Windows 10 and a choice of GPU and driver vendors.
Arch Linux representing: my OS can turn a directory into a container w/ arbitrary programs loaded that is split from my main OS. My backup routine moves 50gb to an external hdd in 30 seconds because I use rsync with hard links against previous deltas. I have ~75 lines of python that poll my downloads directory and unzip, untar, and un-rar anything I download. Another ~75 lines moves downloads into a quarantine zone a…
I work professionally as a programmer, so I agree with your overall sentiment, but I'm also very involved in film & video restoration outside of work and can state with confidence that GNU/Linux is a second-class citizen in this space.
The few companies in this business that target GNU/Linux produce software that pales in comparison to offerings on Windows & Mac OS X. For instance, PFClean by The Pixel Farm barely holds a candle to DIAMANT.
Now, this obviously has nothing to do with them targeting GNU/Linux, but at the end of the day you have to use the best tools for the job at hand.
Re: 4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
#47Even before Big Sur, the output to external monitors on MPBs was buggy as hell. My 2019 one wakes up from sleep, and its a 50/50 chance on the external monitor output working, causing me to have to unplug and replug the cable to get it to output.
I just got my first macbook in years. I legit thought something was wrong with my monitor (even though it works perfectly with my Windows desktop and my Linux laptop). So it's Big Sur??
Could just as easily be your Thunderbolt dock (if you are using one) or adapter.
Most docks and a lot of the adapters out there completely suck.
CalDigit is perfect, though. No issues with my 2 external monitors on my 16" MBP since I got a CalDigit dock. Now I plug in one cable, and everything is kosher: 96W power, GigE, external speakers, 2 external hard drive arrays, and 2 monitors.
Was perfect under Catalina, and remains perfect under Big Sur.
Re: 4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
#48Even before Big Sur, the output to external monitors on MPBs was buggy as hell. My 2019 one wakes up from sleep, and its a 50/50 chance on the external monitor output working, causing me to have to unplug and replug the cable to get it to output.
Strange... I, and others I work with, used to have this problem with Catalina daily. It was probably because of the usb-c port.
But since Big Sur I no longer have this issue /shrug
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#49Re: 4k 144Hz no longer available after upgrade to Big Sur
#50Unfortunately I don’t think apples had a smooth new OS Release it in some time. This issue was obviously noted with the Big Sur beta roll out where that may be forgiven more readily. But now it’s in the public release. Knowing nothing about the matter I guess I could see how new OS releases break things and how it’s sometimes hard to triage bug reports in a giant organization like Apple. In desktop Linux these sorts of problems are almost a matter of course— I still remember having to drop Arch when I no longer had the time to read every changelog as recommended before evergreen updates. With Ubuntu is easier— just go with LTS and install stuff from source when the packages don’t have what you need. On the other hand Windows didn’t seem to have any of these issues. Not to mention Mac controls the hardware it installed on and Windows had to work on much more diverse hardware. In the end though I think Apple works out its new OS kinks within a few months of release and, even though there ideally wouldn’t be workflow breaking bugs in public releases. You just have to kind of treat the public release as unstable for a few months. Ideally you don’t upgrade before then lest Apple revoke the install signatures from the previous stable release.