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Re: Firefox 84.0

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Based on code inspection, I believe so, yes. It will map "dev.localhost" to 127.0.0.1.

I wonder if Mozilla overlooked this. IANA has 127.0.0.0/8 reserved for loopback, not just 127.0.0.1. https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/...

Yes, but that's only relevant if Firefox were mapping from IP addresses to something. Here it's mapping to an IP address, so 127.0.0.1 is fine (even though, e.g., 127.0.0.42 would also have been fine).

Re: Firefox 84.0

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I'm seeing high CPU usage on YouTube after recent updates on Xubuntu. I think it started when they enabled GPU acceleration by default. Previously I could watch even FHD videos without much fan noise, but after recent updates, fans spin at the max speed by playing even 480p quality vids. Anyone else?

Would you mind capturing a profile? https://blog.paul.cx/post/profiling-firefox-media-workloads/... explains how. It's very very very simple and quick, there is a video demo and a text explaining what to do, and then you can open a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&comp... , with the profile link (you can login with a github account or email). This will be triaged and hopefully we'll unde…

Just did some tests on Firefox 83 and DOM reflow time grows exponentially with the depth of DOM tree. With grid elements of depth 10 single reflow takes seconds on my Ryzen laptop while on chromium is not noticable at all.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Would you mind capturing a profile? https://blog.paul.cx/post/profiling-firefox-media-workloads/... explains how. It's very very very simple and quick, there is a video demo and a text explaining what to do, and then you can open a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&comp... , with the profile link (you can login with a github account or email). This will be triaged and hopefully we'll unde…

Just did some tests on Firefox 83 and DOM reflow time grows exponentially with the depth of DOM tree. With grid elements of depth 10 single reflow takes seconds on my Ryzen laptop while on chromium is not noticable at all.

Can you post a link to a test case?

Re: Firefox 84.0

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I wonder if Mozilla overlooked this. IANA has 127.0.0.0/8 reserved for loopback, not just 127.0.0.1. https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/...

Yes, but that's only relevant if Firefox were mapping from IP addresses to something. Here it's mapping to an IP address, so 127.0.0.1 is fine (even though, e.g., 127.0.0.42 would also have been fine).

It seems relevant because Firefox ignores that I might have dev.localhost mapped to a valid loopback address that is not 127.0.0.1.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Firefox is way too valuable as a hedge against Google hegemony to let die. If they ever lose the Google search money hose and become threatened I do expect a Google competitor to realize that and step in with some funding. Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, and I suspect they are starting to realize it. That being said, I only expect it to be maintained at a hedg…

What makes you suspect Microsoft is starting to regret basing Edge off of Chromium?

I've heard that Microsoft doesn't have as solid a position at the standards table as they used to have pre-Chromium.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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> autoconfig.js and firefox.cfg to disable telemetry You can change this in the configuration dialog, and once disabled, that setting will be preserved through Firefox upgrades. You shouldn't need to change this repeatedly. > legacyUserProfileCustomizations to use userChrome.css to get anything like a proper menu system. By "proper menu system", do you mean having the menu bar always visible? You can enable that with…

> can change this in the configuration dialog, The options in config were greyed out in 83. > "proper menu system", do you mean.. The ability to make multi tier menu with icons or text instead of both >Doing so would result in running an outdated Doing so would result in a stable system that wouldn't just randomly disable all addons from working, security related addons at that.

> The options in config were greyed out in 83.

I'm running Firefox 83, and those options are still available. It's critically important that Firefox support disabling telemetry.

If you've edited those options via one of the lower-level preference systems, such as autoconfig.js, you may have locked them, which would cause them to show up as greyed out.

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Major browsers can't ditch Flash until Adobe EOLs it. Too many legacy enterprise apps still rely on it, even though they are likely being frantically reimplemented this month. I'm in that boat.

> Major browsers can't ditch Flash until Adobe EOLs it. Adobe announced EOL a long time ago. January 12th is the day it will stop working, regardless of browser support.

A website my kids school use for maths advises it will stop worrying except for with Google Chrome, so I assume Google is keeping their flash implementation, and so flash will keep working.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Dear Firefox developers, please fix vsync one day.

Is this an issue specific to certain hardware?

We have five Windows 10 computers - 3 Intel laptops, 2 with nVidia graphics. 1 Ryzen laptop with nVidia graphics. 1 Ryzen desktop with Radeon graphics. None of them have the tearing issue when watching videos on YouTube using Firefox.

The Ryzen laptop and desktop have 144hz screens. The rest are 60hz.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Firefox is way too valuable as a hedge against Google hegemony to let die. If they ever lose the Google search money hose and become threatened I do expect a Google competitor to realize that and step in with some funding. Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, and I suspect they are starting to realize it. That being said, I only expect it to be maintained at a hedg…

>Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, It is not true at all. After a long time Microsoft's browser share in increasing. They probably are quite happy about it,.

Also things like teams and skype at least on linux appear to just be electron webapps. Microsoft's safest long-term cash cow I think is still in these corporate contracts that combine all their tools in a confusing giant stew for every employee at those 1,000+ headcount companies.

Having more instrumentation over the platform they're doing it on is probably reasonable and realistically blink is already on every platform with over 1% usage share so that's a much easier road than supporting Trident, EdgeHTML or Chakra - the engine is not their core product - it's the stuff built on top of it.

I've used edge on linux - other than the weird thrill of seeing software that says "Copyright Microsoft" running on linux it's just a typical functional webbrowser -- that's exactly what they need.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Yahoo outbid Google one year, and Firefox duly changed the default search engine for a while.

FFs market share was a bit higher back then, though. I see the main asset of firefox as being a) not google tech b) mobile browser with ublock c) tech nerds with tons of custom FF addons, never wanting to switch So I don't see them go away anytime soon, but I also see nothing to stop the decrease of their marketshare. That means, unless mozilla would focus on their core values again. They lost much trust with quite s…

None of them are a guarantee for it to survive but diversity is important and hard to see a second option disappearing just like how BSD are surviving.

Imagine what kind of HN thread pops up if Firefox is abandoned by Mozilla.

Also Firefox is a single licensed product that is MPL, and for anyone who wants it that way commercially may support it.

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