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Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by brown9-2 »

michaelfairley wrote: post #88
brown9-2 wrote: post #83

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Are you sure about that? How does one access this info? If I go to " rel="nofollow">http://graph.facebook.com/ , the only data that is visible is: { "id": "...", "name": "...", "first_name": "...", "last_name": "...", "username": "...", "gender": "male", "locale": "en_US" }

https://graph.facebook.com/michaelfairley/picture?type=large for the picture. Friends can be accessed similarly, but require an access token (_any_ access token, not just the user's that you're inspecting. More details at Facebook's API docs: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/user/

Friends can be accessed similarly, but require an access token (_any_ access token, not just the user's that you're inspecting.

This would seem to be a bug if so, according to this page in the FB documentation: To get additional information about a user, you must first get their permission. At a high level, you need to get an access token for the Facebook user. After you obtain the access token for the user, you can perform authorized requests on behalf of that user by including the access token in your Graph API requests:

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by brown9-2 »

kmavm wrote: post #112
brown9-2 wrote: post #83

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Are you sure about that? How does one access this info? If I go to " rel="nofollow">http://graph.facebook.com/ , the only data that is visible is: { "id": "...", "name": "...", "first_name": "...", "last_name": "...", "username": "...", "gender": "male", "locale": "en_US" }

Try, e.g.: curl @gmail.com" rel="nofollow">https://socialgraph.googleapis.com/otherme?q= Here's what they have to say about me, to anybody with a web browser, even though I've tried my hardest to opt out: https://socialgraph.googleapis.com/otherme?q=facebook.com/km... {" http://twitter.com/keithmadams:{attributes:{atom:http://twit... at Facebook, dad, cyclist.","exists":"1","rss":" http://twitter.com/statuses/user_ti…

Are you using your Google account to login to these other services? That API call returns nothing for my address.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by nightpool »

joshfinnie wrote: post #42
tnorthcutt wrote: post #36

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They are too young of a company to be pulling this sort of seedy stuff. Is there a time in a company's existence when it's "ok" to do something like this?

I don't think it was meant to be "ok" but more in line with the last ditch effort. Older companies might feel as though they have pulled all the stops and this is their last effort to make an impact. I am not saying it is okay, just trying to shine some light on what I think yanw meant.

>Last ditch effort.

It could also be a 'We're the establishment, we don't care what others think now' vibe, instead of a last ditch effort that causes some companies to use seedy tactics.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by kmavm »

brown9-2 wrote: post #132
kmavm wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try, e.g.: curl @gmail.com" rel="nofollow">https://socialgraph.googleapis.com/otherme?q= Here's what they have to say about me, to anybody with a web browser, even though I've tried my hardest to opt out: https://socialgraph.googleapis.com/otherme?q=facebook.com/km... {" http://twitter.com/keithmadams:{attributes:{atom:http://twit... at Facebook, dad, cyclist.","exists":"1","rss":" http://twitter.com/statuses/user_ti…

Are you using your Google account to login to these other services? That API call returns nothing for my address.

No.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by orijing »

lwat wrote: post #130
orijing wrote: post #128

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The company was very open internally. Everything a full timer knew, an intern could easily find out.

You think the'd tell the full-timers about secret smear campaigns against competitors?

Like I said, everything was open. You can't keep a secret at Facebook. Facebook isn't run like Apple--very different.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by sunchild »

lotusleaf1987 wrote: post #77
sunchild wrote: post #69

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Wait a minute – this story broke on a blog, and then got picked up by the Daily Beast, and then by Arrington. I guess you could give Arrington credit for spreading this story to his audience, but he doesn't deserve credit for calling Facebook out in the first place.

I think your sarcasm meter may need some tuning. ;)

HN comments are usually so earnest, that I turn my sarcasm meter off here. It goes back on as soon as I leave. ;)

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by Devilboy »

orijing wrote: post #135
lwat wrote: post #130

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You think the'd tell the full-timers about secret smear campaigns against competitors?

Like I said, everything was open. You can't keep a secret at Facebook. Facebook isn't run like Apple--very different.

So now that Facebook admitted it, you're still sticking to your story? wtf

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by Elepsis »

calloc wrote: post #73
pemulis wrote: post #55

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You can also use Facebook Comments with a Yahoo, AOL, or Hotmail account. But not - notice - a Google account.

Yeah ... and that is why I can't leave comments =)

If you seriously don't have a Facebook, Yahoo, Hotmail or AOL account, but do have a Google account, you really ought to take a step out of Google's back pocket and sign up for one of the other huge services on the internet.

Re: Facebook Loses Much Face In Secret Smear On Google

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Post by orijing »

Devilboy wrote: post #137
orijing wrote: post #135

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Like I said, everything was open. You can't keep a secret at Facebook. Facebook isn't run like Apple--very different.

So now that Facebook admitted it, you're still sticking to your story? wtf

I don't have any story, except a reaction of disbelief... Plus, I can't edit the original post anyway in light of new revelations.

The point is, as an ex-intern, I am surprised.

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